Open 834: Trust Fall - Game Over


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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:36 pm

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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:40 pm

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...Any thoughts on the players involved?

It is worth noting that Pooky is not saying (though he might believe, idk) activity is AI in general. He is saying it is scum indicative specifically for Klick.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:40 pm

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Pretty sure the dinner ate Tammy instead, rest in peace
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:41 pm

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@prism who would be scum!pookys teammate here? would it be cookie for you or?
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:42 pm

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In post 1126, Prism wrote:...Any thoughts on the players involved?

It is worth noting that Pooky is not saying (though he might believe, idk) activity is AI in general. He is saying it is scum indicative specifically for Klick.
im tempted to call it townie with the way it came out of nowhere
lowkey i sort of agree with him but thats against my better judgement
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:43 pm

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if my reads are this ass backwards perhaps i should go back into retiring from mafia
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:51 pm

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hm pooky was on wisdoms side thru alot of this game so this outburst hardly makes sense now that i think about it
does scum!pooky get genuinely pissed at wisdom or his he that good at theatre
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:56 pm

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i need guidance
i only get whats essentially coinflips as results for the MU quizzes
im dogshit
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:10 pm

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I don't know who Pooky's partner would be but I don't really do preflips and Pooky is at the null-nullscum slot anyway.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:11 pm

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I have made it very clear that I would leave behind Klick first and foremost.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:18 pm

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In post 1133, Prism wrote:I don't know who Pooky's partner would be but I don't really do preflips and Pooky is at the null-nullscum slot anyway.
my b got ahead of myself, thought pooky was the new wagon
thats completely fair yeah
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:19 pm

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i have gone from three confident townreads and three townleans to having only two townleans and the rest null
slowly losing my motivation to play this
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:31 pm

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i mean after wisdom flips red u can call him my partner idgaf
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:44 pm

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I forgot that the game is nightless so it was silly to ask worst to wait for me to post. I don’t have anything grand to say lol.

I still don’t have townreads I’d bet the game on, and I’m not sure I’m going to today,

I need to reread the game as the past few days have been me reading while working or hanging out with friends, but I’m not going to reread tonight. Might get to that tomorrow.

I’m not entirely jazzed about the worst leaving with wisdom or enchant because I don’t have great townreads on any of them, wisdom and the worst feel fine? but I wouldn’t bet the game on feeling fine, but also not sure how likely I am to get better than that today.

I’ve liked the way that prism has been going about rereading the game and pointing out stuff. I was a bit suspicious at the way she was writing pooky off as town earlier in the game. That might have been a silly concern, but pooky’s play at several points didn’t feel right. But major caveat: I don’t trust my ability to read pooky correctly. Some of the things that are probably just part of pookys playstyle, I read as super scummy. In warehouse 13 the over performative ness of his push on cakez when he was town hit the same notes his flavorleaf push did in tenet when he was scum. What I thought might be town indicative was his overt flirting/buddying because that is more likely to make me distrust someone rather than trust them, and I thought certainly he knows that? But he might not and I shouldn’t rely on that actually.

What I found suspicious was the way he treated mafmen’s portion of the wis-men spat earlier. It felt like he was nitpicking him for arguing his point as if it was horrible that madmen continued the argument in what was a regular, general run of the mill mafia argument/discussion. Sure they lost the plot there, but the fact that maf continued to argue isn’t scum indicative the way that pooky tried to paint it. Town madmen would have wanted to be understood just as much as scum madmen would, and he wasn’t looking at the argument and viewpoints just the fact that he continued to argue was problematic. I did not like the argument with wisdom today at all. It made no sense, and the performative aspect of it just reminds me of tenet and the way he pushed flavorleaf. But he also did that in warehouse thirteen, so yeah guys performative I guess. But today’s made no sense, especially considering wisdom trusted me two days ago and pooky was around when he did. So yeah I don’t know. But if he actually thinks wisdom is scum, he should have had a reaction to the worst. (Sorry if you’re town pooky and these are your real thoughts. I enjoy your presence a lot; I just don’t trust you)

I kinda liked enchant untrusting me I think. I liked it in the moment. Now I’m not entirely sure.

While I did like that line about things not being stupid, my problem with kick is that I don’t think he should have gone from suspecting me to trusting me based on my reactions. The whole thing was flimsy anyway, but iirc I was really the only person he had talked about and was scumleaning in the first place. And he went from that to damn near town reading me and putting in a possible trust which makes the original suspicion not feel genuine.

I had the opposite reaction to prism on infinity and the wisdom read. I’d be surprised if it were wisdom/infinity though based on how much they were insisting that wisdom was town and questioning me why I didn’t see the clear. I was interested to see what the worst was going to do with his suspicions concerning their reaction to his clear claim but I think he dropped that.

These are my off the top of my head random thoughts with little conclusions ha
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:56 pm

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:05 pm

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Trust Count (1.10)


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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:33 pm

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I have 5 townreads
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:34 pm

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honestly if Pooky is scum it's with wisdom and that's scary lol
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:35 pm

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lol
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:35 pm

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then let me stay here with him until the end :3
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 1141, the worst wrote:I have 5 townreads
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:10 pm

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fastest duck out
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:19 pm

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isnt 5 townreads enough to end the game?
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:46 pm

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yeah but like, i would prefer folks discuss & agree on them all first
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:52 pm

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duck :) i'm town
tammy - think tammy is p unlikely to ask me for the extra time + swing back with large contentful post if she's scum rn. unless her partner is like, epic doomed but i don't feel like tammy is trying to redeem poe slots so probably just town. she was towny anyway.
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enchant - big town motivation in things he does. his reads feel off-beat but not fake. if i'm wrong i'll cry.
wisdom - has worst case scenario scum but there's several others before him.
prism - weakest townread because trivially easy to fake, etc. she can be swapped with infinity at a whim.
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Infinity 324 - i keep going back & forth they're probably town but oh well there's a margin of error in this setup.
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Klick - kinda null so i'm relying on meta from folks.
cool cookie - feels like rly obvious to me. lol. i don't know.




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