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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:06 pm

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Can you read PYP: HoS_S and tell me what you think of Rnchant’s scumplay there
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:12 pm

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This seems weird to me, but this whole setup is necessarily going to be weird, so idk how to feel about it. It seems like this cleric role could be used to limit/detect fakeclaims, but isn't terribly helpful as a cop on its own because non-magical Scum or death-related Town are both plausible enough to make the results meaningless unless it directly contradicts a claim.
I'm... Not really confident this flips scum anymore, but... I don't know.

Can we do Tarou instead?
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 652, Enchant wrote:Thor is more passive and not funny as maf (i saw his town and mafia in one game).
Helay and Haley because of townie reaction on "You are Vig" and overall decent game.
shout out to this read enchant had in this game that made me laugh

"Thor is town because he's not funny as mafia"

Looks like enchant does short posts, doesnt explain reads, has a lot of "Why are you voting me", seems to focus on factual stuff and chimes in on stuff but never about his own opinion. Looks like he occasionally gives reads but not really much in the way of explaining
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:20 pm

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To be honest i didnt notice any posts that had deeper analysis beyond "This person is town" in PyP.

skimming Enchant's iso there is some of the same but like , , seem to be examples of engaging with the game at least on a somewhat deeper level.

Also I'm not entirely sure Enchant forgets about the game if he's scum. But i could be off-base. I got the impression he enjoyed scum from dark witches alternate reality or whatever it was called. He kinda ended up carrying at the end.

I certainly go Tarou over him in any case. would rather just hear more and judge him as i go
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:20 pm

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VOTE: TarouMaru
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:21 pm

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I think there's a chance this is a case of letting up the gas too early but the claim makes me lean towards Tarou yeah
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:22 pm

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letting up the gas? Letting off the gas? What's the phrase?

My point being that i am easily swayed by X-1 claims. Like that could just be a mod fakeclaim. But I lean that Ari is a town miller to the claim so that gives it some credibility.

unless it was made up as a response to Ari's role which would be quite smart
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:24 pm

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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:50 pm

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In post 1561, NDMath wrote:
In post 1521, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:r u really giving me shit for not analyzing a survey that half the fucking game didnt even bother to fill out
When you put it that way you have a point.
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I have a slight problem with this as I slightly conflict but with the two nerfs I have, I can't be sure I CC directly.
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:52 pm

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I'm not sure what you mean by conflict exactly. Your role implies NDMath's is a lie somehow? I assume by being too similar. but why would the mod give scum a fakeclaim that doesnt work
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:58 pm

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In post 1584, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by conflict exactly. Your role implies NDMath's is a lie somehow? I assume by being too similar. but why would the mod give scum a fakeclaim that doesnt work
Yes, too similar. It's a gray area because of nerfs existing. There could be scum who don't use magic that bypass NDMath. People can be framed with mine once I get going.

I don't really know if they're incompatible but it makes me pause.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:13 pm

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So you unvote NDmath who said Taro can't use bad magic and wagon Taro instead?

I don't know what fraction we are against, but if this claim is true, i expect some magical guild or coven against us (or mod trickery). Atleast, if NDmath is from kingdom, it imploy Taro is also innocent, unless i am not understanding something.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:39 pm

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All we know is that Tarou doesn't use dark magic

Town can use dark magic and scum can just not use it. I'm not really sure if it's helpful for anything except boxing in fakeclaims
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:44 pm

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On further thought Idk what that role would even accomplish
It sounds like based on that the scum flavor might be centered around magic, which they’d probably be aware of and have planned claims around accordingly
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:49 pm

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regardless it being helpful or not isn't really my point so much as that it's believable given Ari's role

I didn't really think about the scum faction being magic-flavoured though. I guess that could make a magic-cop fakeclaim kind of a no-brainer in that case
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:56 pm

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I don't really like the assumption that scum has mod-assigned fakeclaims. I don't really understand why you'd think that's the case, unless you were scum and given one. But I townread you for basically everything else, so... What's the deal here?
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:03 pm

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In post 1586, Enchant wrote:So you unvote NDmath who said Taro can't use bad magic and wagon Taro instead?

I don't know what fraction we are against, but if this claim is true, i expect some magical guild or coven against us (or mod trickery). Atleast, if NDmath is from kingdom, it imploy Taro is also innocent, unless i am not understanding something.
We already have an example of a Town role that could feasibly fall under "dark magic" with Meg's "Shadow of the Nightmare Lord" flip. It stands to reason that if there can be Town who do use dark magic, there can be scum who don't.
Further, the two nightkills means we have either two scumteams, an SK, a Vig, or some combination of some or all of those. It's possible one scumteam is magic flavored while the other, or the SK, is not.
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:37 pm

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I have been voted at last., figures from my activity but fellow friends, I am not scum.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:16 am

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votecount 2.7
Taroumaru (5) :
Skybird ; Morning Tweet ; Radical Rat ; Gamma Emerald ; PookyTheMagicalBear
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Titus (3) :
Yuki Takeya ; Taroumaru ; Almost50
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:38 am

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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:11 am

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WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING?


Do you or don't you
believe ND's claim? If you do,
why are you voting his clear?


If you don't. why are you moving off him??

This post was initially supposed to be addressing MT, but I saw a bunch of players sheeping her unto Tarou. What the fuck is your rational there?

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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:19 am

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Idk if I believe it
It’s also not a hard clear
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:25 am

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OK.. not a HARD clear, bur still a CLEAR. Why not tackle another slot that has NOT been checked at all? Why is it hard for you to voter Titus? Or Enchant for that matter? Still: What's the rational there?

(Let me give you an example: A Tracker says X didn't go anywhere last night. That's OBVIOUSLY not a "hard clear", but why do we vote off X on that same day still?

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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:38 am

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If Almost50 starts making sense, you know you fucked up.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:38 am

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In post 1594, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@mod

aristophanes hasnt posted in 8+ days
he's also getting replaced yes
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