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Vote Count 1-5

Shakespeare did layeth down the memes of an early morn', and

The Merry Wives of Windsor

had their share.

WhemeStar

(5): Bowser Jr., Cephrir, Wisdom, Off The Hook, Pavowski

DeasVail

(2): Galron, Tamora's Angel

Child of Fairies

(2): DeasVail, GuiltyLion

Bowser Jr.

(2): Icebox, Lady Lambdadelta

Juliet Capulet

(2): Dunnstral, Skybird

GuiltyLion

(1): Juliet Capulet

Off The Hook

(1): Lukewarm

Icebox

(1): WhemeStar

Not Voting

(1): Child of Fairies

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.

Deadline: November 3, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-11-03 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Skybird]

I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.

Is this sarcasm

-Bell

Not at all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The following players have made me feel good about them at some point in this game: {Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

I am proud of each and every one of you for your achievements.

Hey Bell or marci you wanna chat? I have nothing in mind but I would like you both to say things to me that will get me more engaged <------- This is an open invitation to anyone itg that happens to be around!

~Spiffy

Vote: Bowser Jr.

[WhemeStar]

Gamma why does Marci feel sorry for me?

[Off The Hook]

The following players have made me feel good about them at some point in this game: {Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

I am proud of each and every one of you for your achievements.

Hey Bell or marci you wanna chat? I have nothing in mind but I would like you both to say things to me that will get me more engaged <------- This is an open invitation to anyone itg that happens to be around!

~Spiffy

I’m skeptical of a couple of these TRs to various degrees (Luke, GL)
As for helping you get engaged idk what type of things help you with that so I can’t really attempt to deliver without some elaboration on what you’re looking for
@Wheme marci felt bad you got wagoned so fast

-GE

[DeasVail]

Thanks, I get what you’re saying but at this point I disagree with those reasons leading to OTH-scum

This feels incredibly disconnected from you sorting the slot yourself. Didn't you have them in your scum list a couple pages ago? (albeit, you said they were the least scummy of the list).

Are you now town reading them? If yes, what caused you to change that from what ever post you scum read them in before?

My list of 4 was obviously going off very little and there has been a fair bit happening since then. I wouldn't say that I scumread them at the moment, but my feelings are conflicted. There are little things that I like and little things that I don't like, to the point where I don't feel able to form a solid opinion on the slot right now.

I hadn't realised the extent of your familiarity with Marci before, which probably changes my thoughts on your suspicion of the slot, but I disagreed with your conclusion that "nervous = scum" and that "confrontational = scum". In my mind it would be weird for someone to keep doing the same active thing that they've done many times before as scum.
I don't townread the slot, but I don't need to townread the slot to disagree with your reasons for scumreading them. Again though, I'm now aware that your experience with Marci (lots) is much greater than my experience (none) so, in some respects, who am I to even comment on your reasons?

[DeasVail]

UNVOTE: Child of Fairies
VOTE: Bowser Jr.

This is not really indication of a change of read on CoF, but more that Bowser Jr. seems to be trying oh so hard to insert themselves into some kind of cool kids towncore despite not really doing anything town.

[DeasVail]

Also I agree with LLD

[Galron]

@mod vla 48 hours

[Skybird]

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

I didn't like how the justification for the vote in 103 feels very overexplanatory

GL has posted a lot more since then. Do you still feel suspicious about that slot?

@GL, my apologies for calling you a slot. I couldn't remember your pronouns.

[Icebox]

This game is so slow I actually reread the entire game. I haven't done that since death curse.
Still waiting for a bite.

-Bell

Good for you to read the game for me as well!
If you’re around please give me tldr in discord kthx.

[Dunnstral]

I dont think Gamma would tell her to antagonize me

The lady is a beast who is't cannot beest did contain by mere words, a wild animal who is't liveth off instinct and feeleth high-lone.

I bethink juliet is lacking thoughts, and the mistress is did treat like delicate mildew upon a spring leaf f'r their style.

the juni'r seemeth to beest afflict'd with darkness. Begone foul thing, from whither thee cameth.

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

[Icebox]

The following players have made me feel good about them at some point in this game: {Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

I am proud of each and every one of you for your achievements.

Hey Bell or marci you wanna chat? I have nothing in mind but I would like you both to say things to me that will get me more engaged <------- This is an open invitation to anyone itg that happens to be around!

~Spiffy

Hi I’m Bell and I would chat with you because I totally read this game twice wow I am totally motivated and stuff.
What do you want to talk about in general?

[Bowser Jr.]

LLD, DV, etc. let me help you out:

if it helps just write us off as Town and never question it and we'll be in good shape? We are undisputedly Town so as long as you're Town too there's absolutely no risk for you whatsoever

Given the resurfacing of the above post I will give you both 48 hours to find another place for your votes.

Thank you for your consideration swift action in this matter.

PEdit: Dunnstral this now applies to you as well.

~Spiffy

[Icebox]

(I’m at work atm so I’ll prob actually look at the game later today)

[Bowser Jr.]

Hi I’m Bell and I would chat with you because I totally read this game twice wow I am totally motivated and stuff.
What do you want to talk about in general?

Now's not a great time cuz I have to start working but

What do you think about the votes on us? I wasn't thrilled with DV's but rereading my post asking to be engaged by you and marci I can squint and kinda see how he got there, but overall feels like a reach to me.

I do think it's odd that he criticizes us for trying too hard to get in a townbloc and then proceeds to buddy (imo) LLD by saying he agrees with her despite her having only voted this entire game.

~Spiffy

[Dunnstral]

Begone beldams, playeth not tricks of the mind

[DeasVail]

I do think it's odd that he criticizes us for trying too hard to get in a townbloc and then proceeds to buddy (imo) LLD by saying he agrees with her despite her having only voted this entire game.

well I don't agree with you, that's for sure

[DeasVail]

why does suspicion = criticism? Why does agreement = buddying?

So many things are suddenly becoming other things and it reeks of creating narratives where no such narratives exist

[DeasVail]

I shall not stand for the scaredy cat passive discrediting of me!

Die scum!

[Bowser Jr.]

I don’t think there’s anything fundamentally different between suspicion and criticism in this context.

I can elaborate on why I called your agreement with LLD buddying: LLD has done nothing but vote this entire game, which is fine, but your explicitly calling out that you agree with her feels unearned because she hasn’t expressed an opinion to be agreed with outside of what we can assume from her votes.

It felt to me that you were trying to endear yourself to her, and seeing as LLD is a very influential Town player I could see scum trying to cozy up to her.

~Spiffy

[Bowser Jr.]

why does suspicion = criticism? Why does agreement = buddying?

So many things are suddenly becoming other things and it reeks of creating narratives where no such narratives exist

This post illustrates a pattern with your approach to us so far: in the post where you vote us, you seem to take issue with the post where I list out all my townreads and ask for a few of them to engage with me about the game. You immediately assume the worst and claim that we are trying to get in a townbloc instead of just having some town reads and wanting to talk to them about the game.

The above quoted post paints my actions as “creating narratives” which feels like a reach and is a buzz-phrase that gives you a convenient excuse to double down on your vote as our wagon grows.

I understand that the nature of mafia requires you to look for scum motivation in everyone’s posts, but your handling of your push on us in both these cases feels like you came into the read with the intention of scum reading us and are looking for things that will reinforce that. This, along with my point about LLD above, makes me happy to

VOTE: DeasVail

Also 47 hours until all votes on us must be removed.

~Spiffy

[Icebox]

It’s rvs so I’ll allow it.

But your partner is still a towel.


-Bell

[Icebox]

Also, dunnstrall. Wut you doin. Is this what your scum game looks like now.
Because if it is I should be taking notes because there’s barely any difference.
-Bell

[Icebox]

You’re lucky I’m on my phone or I would be posting a 24 gif spiffy.

@Bird, that’s cheery.

-Bell