Open 835: D6 | Songs About Ronald Reagan | Day 5

[numberQ]

What's weird about Roden's tone?

[redtea]

VOTE: Enchant

Biggest wagon right now, and he's on the bottom half of my reads list already. If discussion is stagnating I feel like we should at least keep up the vote momentum.

Do you think his town strategizing is something he thought up as scum for townpoints then?

[redtea]

it's the lamist vibe ig

[numberQ]

I think Enchant's strategy will be chaotic at best, and actively out PRs at worst. The possible town utility seems more difficult to achieve, and has to survive into lategame anyway to actually be useful. Whether or not scum!Enchant was planning on that, it's hard to say, especially if he got the strat from the wiki. So I'm currently not putting any stock in it alignment-wise at all. Might be something to consider if Enchant survives to tomorrow, to sort him out later based on further reads. But for now, with very little else to go on day 1 so far, I'm gonna vote him

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Let's try actually one tactic from wiki. Like what we lose?

Example:
If i am Role Oracle/Role Cop, i targeted Egix96 last night and found them as Vanilla.
If i am Parity Cop, i targeted Galron last night.
If i am N0 Cop, then ssbm_Kyouko is Innocent, as well as Galron.

If am other role (Roleblocker/Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard/Tracker) i used my ability on Gamma Emerald last night, but anything important didn't happen.
If i am Vanilla, disregard that.



If everyone fill this, then PR can leave "crumbs" without being painly obvious? Everyone should make effort to actually make it belivable though.

it's day 1 bruv

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I still think Enchant is most likely here

[Galron]

Votecount:

• Enchant (3): Almost50, ssbm_Kyouko, Galron
  Galron (2): Roden, Gamma Emerald
  Gamma Emerald (2): MegAzumarill, Not_Mafia
  numberQ (1): PenguinPower
  Not_Mafia (1): mozamis
  MegAzumarill (1): numberQ
  redtea (1): Egix96

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-11-10 07:56:01).
With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Am I reading that right?

VOTE: Enchant

[Gamma Emerald]

lol you were already voting there

[Galron]

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm

[T3]

Votecount:

• Enchant (3): Almost50, ssbm_Kyouko, Galron
  Galron (2): Roden, Gamma Emerald
  Gamma Emerald (2): MegAzumarill, Not_Mafia
  numberQ (1): PenguinPower
  Not_Mafia (1): mozamis
  MegAzumarill (1): numberQ
  redtea (1): Egix96

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-11-10 07:56:01).
With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Am I reading that right?

VOTE: Enchant

HOW DO I KEEP MESSING UP VC'S

[numberQ]

mod is scum, probably

[T3]

I quote every post and then go through all of them in preview ;-;

[numberQ]

I like to use a spreadsheet when I mod. All players listed down the left, then each player voting them in cells growing towards the right.

[redtea]

I think Enchant's strategy will be chaotic at best, and actively out PRs at worst. The possible town utility seems more difficult to achieve, and has to survive into lategame anyway to actually be useful. Whether or not scum!Enchant was planning on that, it's hard to say, especially if he got the strat from the wiki. So I'm currently not putting any stock in it alignment-wise at all. Might be something to consider if Enchant survives to tomorrow, to sort him out later based on further reads. But for now, with very little else to go on day 1 so far, I'm gonna vote him

Hmmmmm

[redtea]

Yeah okay actually I don't know why I'm waffling
Considering the voting scandal earlier this is probably just an attempt to distract from that and try to look busy
plus the response to my question sucked
VOTE: Enchant

[Roden]

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

VOTE: Galron

Ok, let's figure each other out. Are these serious votes? If so, why do you scum read me?

Start with the misdemeanors and then, we're gonna' push right on through to the lighter treasons:

Ughhhh...I'm gonna have to keep pushing discussion, aren't I?

I'm gonna unvote before this turns into a Thing
UNVOTE:

Considering no other things have happened or are happening, I say thing it up. Why is your vote better off the wagon than on it?

I'm trying to be a

little

more selective in my thinging

VOTE: gamma

that's me, being selective

Come on, that had to have been deliberate.

VOTE: redtea

Also Enchant wtf are you doing

I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.

Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?

Why not?

Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.

Why i am not sleeping?

Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.

This is also terrible.

Side note: Roden is prob town for actually having common sense around the whole quickhammer situation, and also Azumarill to a lesser extent.

TMI that me and Roden are town?

Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.

Egix, do you have a read on Gamma?

ok, sorry, didnt realise game had started, catching up, ty

It's been a day, and not much has happened since this post. Are you caught up yet? Do you have any opinions?

It is exactly the opposite:

VOTE: roden

I get that you're gimmicking this game, but it's obscuring your thought process. Can you explain your votes?

That's E-2/E-NM btw.

What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. If your scum read on me is genuine then you're making it impossible to understand. And I think if you actually scum read me then you would be making a stronger push on me and try to make it clear to everyone else.

I think if Enchant flips green then it's possible Galron is scum and his buddies are trying to distract by pushing an easy mis-elim. But if Enchant flips red, which does feel likely, Galron is likely town. I think I can figure out Galron by tomorrow either way, so...

Intent to let NM hammer Enchant.

[Gamma Emerald]

I quote every post and then go through all of them in preview ;-;

I take the previous VC, skim thread, and edit in new votes as I notice them

[redtea]

same, but specifically I cut-paste names so I don't get repeats

[redtea]

Jesus Christ y'all spoiler that shit

[Roden]

That's E-2/E-NM btw.

What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?

All scum voting me, 100%

Atleast i don't see phrase "WELL NUMBERQ IS PROB SCUM AND WAGONED LET'S WAGON ENCHANT INSTEAD BECAUSE OPENWULF"

Blatant counter wagon, so mafia are Kyouko+Gamma+NumberQ.

I don't really follow the logic on this. Scum teams don't usually dogpile, especially this early into the game. They're usually too afraid of associations.

[Roden]

Jesus Christ y'all spoiler that shit

My bad, I didn't realize how long the quote block was in preview.

[Roden]

Openwolf enchant is unironically scum
VOTE: Enchant
Q prolly also scum

I still think Enchant is most likely here

What's your analysis of Enchant so far?

[redtea]

I'm trying to see what you're getting at with if scum!enchant, then town!galron
if there's 2 scum then I get it
if there's 3 then I don't
and 3:10 is balanced right?
I usually assume the bigger number

[numberQ]

Well, we know it's a 3 scum team from the setup. It's just the number of PRs that's up in the air.

And I'm also unsure why scum!Enchant = town!Galron, I figured it was just because Galron is impenetrable to me but if someone else doesn't see it either then maybe it's just a confusing read.