Anything uPick (Endgame)

[Cheeky Wings]

T3, why do you townread me?
~C

It doesn’t really feel like you have much of an agenda, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

This is weak T3.

Sakura can be town so maybe she'll perk up since I no longer need to interact with her.

~C

Sakura and T3 are both obvtown here Cheeky.

[Cheeky Wings]

Anything uPick Votecount 1.69:

Gamma Emerald (8): Taly, Ydrasse, Deimos27, Good Luck Buddy, Ircher, Sakura Hana, T3, Cheeky Wings,
Deimos27 (3): Jjh927, Datisi, Gamma Emerald
Cheeky Wings (2): Gypyx, Ratmans
Victorine (1): Titus
Sakura Hana (1): Victorine
Queen (0):
Good Luck Buddy (0):
Datisi (0):
Loftwing (0):
Jjh927 (0):
Ydrasse (0):
Ircher (0):
Clemency (0):
Galron (0):
T3 (0):
Gypyx (0):
Titus (0):
Grandpa (0):
Ratmans (0):
Taly (0):

Not Voting: Clemency, Galron, Grandpa, Loftwing, Queen

With 20 alive it's 11 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-11-20 21:00:00).

@mod, Can we prod some of these lurksacks?

[ratmans]

Spoiler: @CW

Man I just don't wanna read 20 pages a day.

The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough

I'm bad at that too...

@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.

I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.

Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.

Sorry

What I mean is: it felt like you only considered the parts of me that fit with a haphazard narrative (having to do with Datisi being scum, if I remember correctly).

The conclusions you made regarding me did not seem like they incorporated the context of my actions, words, or tone, at all.

There was no effort made to see things from a town!me perspective. It was assumed that either I'm town and dumb or I'm scum.

I put my motivations in clear view. I put my concern for town in clear view. There are clearly players other than myself who are struggling to keep up. That, in my point of view, is the opposite of beneficial to town. It's a very valid concern that got demonized without good faith engagement.

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Oh that explains it. It seems like 1/5 of the playerlist hasn’t posted, so I was wondering.

[ratmans]

I'll get back to you on thoughts about other players after I catch up but I can't promise they'll be great

[Cheeky Wings]

the only fucking way

firebringer could be scum

is if we're some kind of split alignment hydra

which i guess isn't impossible

since this is RC


but I wouldn't bet on it

I don’t believe he’s ever actually done that ever.

[Cheeky Wings]

Oh no cannot even copy

You can paraphrase.

[Cheeky Wings]

I'm not tr'ing CheekyWings. They (or more specifically, Nancy I think?) remind me of scum!Noraa with just the avalanche of AtE spew and self-meta.

But people seem to concur that for their meta it's indeed town-ai?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m nothing like Noraa, so comparing me to her is pointless. None of that is scum indicative for me. At the wirst, it’s nia to town indicative.

Do I have to repeat yesterday? Please no

[Cheeky Wings]

Spoiler: @CW

Man I just don't wanna read 20 pages a day.

The fun part is you don’t have to, when I struggle to keep up in a game I don’t worry about reading stuff I’m missing
Just keeping up with key events is rlly enough

I'm bad at that too...

@CW really my biggest beef with you earlier is the fact you pigeonholed my slot to fit your theory, rather than engaging me like I'm my own player with my own personality which informs my actions. Not to mention blatantly ignoring my concerns. It's okay to engage with the surface-level AND figure if something's going on underneath and what, but it felt like you just kept blowing me off.

I feel that my motivations and/or lack thereof came through in my ISO, which was my point.

Can you elaborate more? I have dyslexia so sometimes I misunderstand things. Thanks.

Sorry

What I mean is: it felt like you only considered the parts of me that fit with a haphazard narrative (having to do with Datisi being scum, if I remember correctly).

The conclusions you made regarding me did not seem like they incorporated the context of my actions, words, or tone, at all.

There was no effort made to see things from a town!me perspective. It was assumed that either I'm town and dumb or I'm scum.

I put my motivations in clear view. I put my concern for town in clear view. There are clearly players other than myself who are struggling to keep up. That, in my point of view, is the opposite of beneficial to town. It's a very valid concern that got demonized without good faith engagement.

It’s possible. I get really pissed when I’m wrongly sr, so I just react. And I know I said I was obvtown here but that’s 100% based off of my play and meta. I’m just too damned lazy to effort like this as scum. I’m really trying hard to to solve this game and it’s jusr extremely frustrating that I continue to be doubted.

[Sakura Hana]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

[Cheeky Wings]

I'll get back to you on thoughts about other players after I catch up but I can't promise they'll be great

You’re doing fine. Ftr, I don’t want to be a leader unless I’m absolutely certain about something. Otherwise, I’m willing to cooperate.

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

I never ever fakeslip ftr as any alignment. Remember HW, I recall totally misunderstanding something mech related but can’t recall now what that was.

I can believe people didn’t get a gamestart pm but I’ll base my reads off of play.

[Ircher]

it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.

It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.

I don't see how this counters Datisi's point. It's not town vs. antitown, but rather town!Sakura with an ability that grows in power vs. scum!Sakura with an ability that grows in power.

But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.

Experience doesn't make one infallible.

And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.

Aren't they still doing that? Or am I misremembering?

Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town

This is a bad take.

this is nice but I still wanna try to drag queen into the game tyvm

And this, friends, is a complete waste of time.

Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?

I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.

No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.

should i start playing yet

Nice prodge.

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C

Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.

, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

Wow, so much sloppy reasoning!

I agree.

I've reconsidered. It seems doubtful scum decides faking not knowing the game started. Like, it isn't impossible, but it also feels a poor strategy because it will get them poed down the road.

That doesn't answer my issue.

Are you trying to place pressure to better solve me, or are you testing the waters to see where the waves head?

I am making a statement of assent, nothing more, nothing less.

Happy scum day!
~C

Thanks!

I have been up about 40h straight with just one 3h nap in the middle of the day because my college is sadistic, so facts are definitely something I might be prone to getting wrong atm

Are you able to pull up the post whose content and author you mistook?

This is not good. A healthy sleep schedule will make your life better in all ways.

[Cheeky Wings]

Spoiler:

it only now occurred to me this could theoretically be a scum role that gets more powerful if people townread her. oh well.

It sounds protown to me. In my previous RC uPick, Mastina had an obvscum role: a role that only killed town in duels.

I don't see how this counters Datisi's point. It's not town vs. antitown, but rather town!Sakura with an ability that grows in power vs. scum!Sakura with an ability that grows in power.

But why would he post that knowing you would recognize it? He’s enough of an experienced player to know toog could still change his mind.

Experience doesn't make one infallible.

And rat the super genious scumhunter that would give Sherlock Holmes a run for his money - NOT - was doing his damndest to get me run up today.

Aren't they still doing that? Or am I misremembering?

Rat reads as someone who is not paying much attention to the gamestate which is +town

This is a bad take.

this is nice but I still wanna try to drag queen into the game tyvm

And this, friends, is a complete waste of time.

Alright then why aren’t you voting either instead of some nia lurker?

I'm trying to pull content out of the slot by voting it, DUH.

No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.

should i start playing yet

Nice prodge.

Yeah I checked the activity overview and if ratmans flips scum GLB and CW are basically IC.

Ratmans and Queen town if Gamma scum.
~C

Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.

, you also talked about your role almost as soon as you started posting which is statistically in role madness games +towns

Wow, so much sloppy reasoning!

I agree.

I've reconsidered. It seems doubtful scum decides faking not knowing the game started. Like, it isn't impossible, but it also feels a poor strategy because it will get them poed down the road.

That doesn't answer my issue.

Are you trying to place pressure to better solve me, or are you testing the waters to see where the waves head?

I am making a statement of assent, nothing more, nothing less.

Happy scum day!
~C

Thanks!

I have been up about 40h straight with just one 3h nap in the middle of the day because my college is sadistic, so facts are definitely something I might be prone to getting wrong atm

Are you able to pull up the post whose content and author you mistook?

This is not good. A healthy sleep schedule will make your life better in all ways.

My point was that Mastina accuratately claimed a proscum role as a negative utility but RC said at the end of that game, that he would never design a town role that scumsided.

Anyway, I don’t see why you think rat is scum. It seems he really wants me to understand where he’s coming from and that reads protown to me since scum do their damndest to avoid being understood.

[Sakura Hana]

I like Ircher for town rn

[Cheeky Wings]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

RC announcing pregame scum got their role PMs early makes it a little more Indicative here imo.
~C

[Cheeky Wings]

Ircher, I mean it’s possible since I was the cw in that case.

[Cheeky Wings]

Ha, no way. That's some extremely flawed reasoning right there. Rat has been doing their best to distract from the Gamma wagon. A red flip on Gamma almost surely means the opposite: a red flip on rat.

Valid. I like it.
~C

[Gamma Emerald]

hey guys... funny thing is i never got a game start pm so i never knew the game started lol

Is this a town slip?
~C

I'm willing to buy that, but, didnt Nancy do that in FFXIV too? or does it not count coz it was an hydra

Uh, what? If you’re talking about how Nancy didn’t post for a couple days at the start she was not really active online at all during that time, so not entirely comparable

[Gamma Emerald]

No, you're avoiding doing anything useful by vote parking on a lurker. Which perhaps is fine if we had all the time in the world to twiddle our thumbs, but we don't. Every second counts, and every second wasted cannot be regained.

We have 11 days remaining and some people want to end the day already. So your critique falls flat, we have plenty of time to use.

[Queen]

Sakura Hana Is My Confirmed Town Read

[Queen]

Sakura Dear Whose Face Would You Like Removed

[Datisi]

ircher, can you make one of those fancy percentage read lists again

[Gamma Emerald]

Sakura Hana Is My Confirmed Town Read

Sakura Dear Whose Face Would You Like Removed

Do you mind engaging me or my situation at all here? I’m kind of a big deal.

[Queen]

I See That Sakura Wants Your Perish How Do You Plead VOTE: Gamma Emerald