Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[VP Baltar]

I'm at a ten bois ask me anything

What are you drinking and is the hangover worth it?

[VP Baltar]

BEEP BOOP

[Sleepless Assassin]

Why not vote me or A50?

I'm more sure on Iconeum and there's more support. I don't see any reason to switch.

[Gamma Emerald]

Haven't read last few pages reading is not happening rn lool

I skimmed the last few because my brain is goddamn porridge

[SirCakez]

I'm at a ten bois ask me anything

What are you drinking and is the hangover worth it?

Not that kind of ten my dude

[Fun and Games]

Gamma's posts dont really have substance to them ...

~ skitter

[Almost50]

Gamma's posts dont really have substance to them ...

~ skitter

Thank you. (Yeah, I know.. pot & kettle, although it's been a while since I used a non-electric kettle)

[VP Baltar]

I think F&G is the only person who has weighed in on my Sleepless case. Let's get some calling VP crazy or voting going on here.

[PenguinPower]

mmmm? what case?

[Fun and Games]

I think darby/gamma makes a lot of sense

~ skitter

[VP Baltar]

mmmm? what case?

General case is that SA put a vote down on Ico initially with somewhat flimsy reasoning, then never really moved it for a full 50 pages.

He wasn't pressing Ico with questions, or actively trying to persuade others to see what he was seeing in Ico. He would merely make an occasional request to other players for their opinions on Ico, in an open ended way, with little follow up.

The one time he did depart from this Ico vote was to vote Gamma as that wagon gained a little steam, but then 12 hours later, SA unvotes Gamma and says he didn't really find him scummy. It was back to Ico at that point.

When I pressed SA about this and asked him to quickly tell me his reasons for voting Ico, he repeatedly told me to "read his iso", which I argue is a sign that SA knows his reasoning was flimsy and he never really believed in his vote or thought it through. If you're voting someone that long, you should be able to rattle off your reasons quickly.

Now, contrast this vote camping from SA with his most recent town games (which admittedly are a couple years old). SA in those games votes 4+ people in D1 scenarios.

Am I being unreasonable here? I think not. I believe SA is scum, and potentially may be buddies with Ico!scum.

[Enchant]

lol VP case so fitting on me i doubted my role PM.

[PenguinPower]

mmm - i don't really get it and your main crux relies on admittedly years old meta.

[VP Baltar]

mmm - i don't really get it and your main crux relies on admittedly years old meta.

The main crux is not meta.

[PenguinPower]

Now, contrast this vote camping from SA with his most recent town games (which admittedly are a couple years old). SA in those games votes 4+ people in D1 scenarios.

No?

[VP Baltar]

That's corrobarative of my intuition here, but you can look solely at the way SA has played in this game and see there isn't true conviction to convincing others on the Ico "case", or even a true interrogation taking place there. That's the crux and it's self contained within this game.

[Sleepless Assassin]

I don't see how VP can still believe any of that after our whole exchange

[VP Baltar]

I don't see how VP can still believe any of that after our whole exchange

You mean when you got super defensive and couldn't explain your case without me quoting it back to you?

[Gamma Emerald]

lol VP case so fitting on me i doubted my role PM.

What? He didn’t even case you

[Enchant]

lol VP case so fitting on me i doubted my role PM.

What? He didn’t even case you

Yes, but i did same.

[Sleepless Assassin]

I don't see how VP can still believe any of that after our whole exchange

You mean when you got super defensive and couldn't explain your case without me quoting it back to you?

So my response that that wasn't my case and then the points I rehashed for you after you refused to acknowledge them just... didn't happen? Or?

This is what it's been like interacting with you. You decide things are one way and no matter what I say, your incorrect version is still the way it is.

[Bingle]

Doesn't it seem odd to you to hang on to a scum read for 50 pages with no change based upon that?

Not really?

Like, I’d think it was more weird if SA was reconsidering when ico just straight up wasn’t here.

Sa’s case is pretty trash, but if pushing a player without casing them was a scum thing then like half of the thread is scum.

[VP Baltar]

Doesn't it seem odd to you to hang on to a scum read for 50 pages with no change based upon that?

Not really?

Like, I’d think it was more weird if SA was reconsidering when ico just straight up wasn’t here.

Sa’s case is pretty trash, but if pushing a player without casing them was a scum thing then like half of the thread is scum.

True, but I guess it is the delusion being expressed too? Like stating he has done more than datisi on Ico is chest puffing and defensive if you ask me. Had he said "yeah, I kind of phoned it in", I might have more doubt. But he's doubled down when i pressed him.

[Bingle]

So you know the original knee jerk "I've just read my Role PM and I'm gonna play this way" stuff you already quoted. You already know that I feel after he disappeared he avoided me after I voted him and tried to get people to join me. You already know that the fact that Dunn and Gamma wagons took off but Iconeum had verbal support without votes made me feel like he had buddies not wanting to vote him. And you already know I don't like his replacement coming in and talking down at his play.

Bullet points:

Tone from entry
Disappeared from thread
Dunn and Gamma had wagons, ico had vocal support
Darby mentioned that ico was thread absent.

Let’s dig into this. If ico wasn’t getting support for an elimination, who was the scum driving that? Like, who are the buddies who were susp of him and weren’t voting him? Does the whole Datisi is a dragon whisperer bit play into that?

Given that he lurked into replacement, do you really think “He’s scum avoiding me” is a better explanation than “He’s busy Irl?” Did you look at his activity elsewhere on the site?

Can you remind me what it was about his tone you didn’t like?

I have to agree with skitter that Darby wasn’t really showing the amished tell, if that even is scum indicative nowadays. Amished is wow-my-slot-so-scummy and all I see from Darby is wow-my-slot-so-not-here.

[Something_Smart]

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