Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Taly]

Peta do you have any reaction to the fact that Skitter was gunning for you to be nom'd and not Saber?

[Taly]

Or read my case on Ggy?

[petapan]

Peta do you have any reaction to the fact that Skitter was gunning for you to be nom'd and not Saber?

i don't really know that there's a strong takeaway from it? she didn't want to bus and knew town was getting nominated from our end and so preferred it to be town vs town. which is consistent with the play in past games i'm seeing.

Or read my case on Ggy?

i have read it, yes. i understand what you are saying. i can see a narrative there. i'm just doing some research right now.

[the worst]

i don't find reading games in endgame that hard, even if they're long

all i can really say is i'm happy for you?

[the worst]

ok ngl reading this game is very inaccessible, does anyone have some juicy interactions with some flipped scum or some crunchy high tension gamestates they can suggest I go read over?

this game is war & peace except worse because it doesnt gave a cliffnotes page I can cram in a couple of hours

For the discerning reader, might I suggest: my iso
Full of 2-3 sentence posts and a svelte 121 posts long, you can find a perspective that finds one scum out of the gate and pushes hard to put two flipped scum (skitter/Firebringer and Harley Quinn/Tamora's Angel) in a lifethreatening event together! Will leave you satisfied without the bloat of an iso that drags on for hundreds of posts with spamposts and ANGY arguments between other players! (Optionally comes with an appetizer of the Blue Deliberation PT and a Heaven PT dipping sauce)

this is actually rly appealing

[Taly]

Tw why am I town?

[the worst]

Ehh true

I still don't quite follow what makes you clear Ydra, though, Peta

I believe you're both town and my solve is correct, but for the game's sake and TW as a replacement, you might want to towncase her.

took the words out of my mouth

1. i'm fairly confident in my associative reads of her with flipped scum
2. her play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective, where she's been doing nothing but positioning herself to lose the game for multiple phases, but does make significantly more sense from an uninformed perspective

force feeding me bread crumsb

[the worst]

when i am mafia i am cool and smart when i am town i am incompetent

fuckin mood

I don't think TW scum enters endgame to WK a doomed slot especially when it's such a different perspective he's taken from me in games.

He gains effectively nothing by this stance, no?

this is like.. exactly something i would do as scum to be as bafflingly uninformed as possible
i'm also not that smart and "bafflingly uninformed" is my middle name so i would prefer you sort my slot off what's coming // what gamma has done

[the worst]

I don't think TW scum enters endgame to WK a doomed slot especially when it's such a different perspective he's taken from me in games.

He gains effectively nothing by this stance, no?

that

entirely makes sense from the perspective of someone who is informed but has absolutely no knowledge of the gamestate


i'm not saying it

has

to be the case, but

i don't think it's clearing and i think at this point you're just confirmation biasing every new piece of information to support your interpretation of the game

yeah this.

[the worst]

if anything i feel like tw may have came on a bit

too

strong in that opening but that is my own subjective bias at play and, as i said


i don't read a lot into what people do and say in this phase


the answer is in the backlogs, it just has to be found

1) all of my opinions are objectively perfect and i need the world to know. how dare you imply anything otherwise.
2) agreed on every count including the coutns i hate.

[the worst]

Tw why am I town?

initially, your tone and broader approach here doesn't seem to align with your scumgame. the best examples that leap into my mind are dated but the basis for my understanding of your scum meta goes back to pypx/y, echo bay grits seo etc. and i still think there are tenets i'm right on. your case on ggooey doesn't feel like it needs to be right, it feels like it needs to be heard. i don't read individual points there and go "mm taly has a point" i read individual points there and go "mm taly believes this".

the more i'm looking back over this phase too, the more i'm like. you have exactly one wincon here. that's getting an ydrasse elim across the line today and then setting up something tomorrow. i actually genuinely think that you're fine with going down here and for last scum taly, that's not a viable path to endgame. if you're scum your only vector to survive this phase is either hard pushing ydrasse into probably ggooey tomorrow, or convincing me to push ydrasse. i think you're listening to peta's criticism of your read on me too well to be working this angle. i think scum-you is perfectly capable of SOUNDING like he's being the big hero and laying his life on the line while actually working towards something else and tbh what you're doing here looks fairly transparent.

i feel really fucking weird about having a gut feeling that you're town but i also don't feel wrong.

now that i've waffled about how good a pocket i would be for scum taly here i still don't get why anyone is townreading ydrasse?

[Ydrasse]

i town

[the worst]

oh nevermind then that makes this much easier

[Ydrasse]

i spent most of this game being dumb as shit and am now clinging to my two little townreads (i can’t cling to taly but i would but taly and i must duel one another for blood)

[Ydrasse]

Can you give me fresh eyes on gooey in the blue pt

[the worst]

in the whatnow

[the worst]

I was being goofy while I hunted down the pt you're talking about but I actually can't find it I'm sorry

[the worst]

ok minor crisis of confidence as I realise that his ggooeey case came directly after I replaced in and akshully getting that down and looking townier than ydrasse for a hot minute then getting an elim through on ggooey is exactly a fine path to victory as scum

[the worst]

if Taly lets himself die today I'm pretty sure he's town

[Gammagooey]

peta has dumped like a thousand pounds of quoted stuff from earlier in the game this event and a large amount of that relates to why he townreads Ydrasse.
One big chunk starts around here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13123035

I am less sure of Ydrasse-town (and I'm the one who put up Ydrasse/Taly as the possible elims for today if you're wondering, after being elected ruler in the Heaven PT) but do think a few of his points in there about Ydrasse seem valid. However, I want Taly-blood 100x more than I want Ydrasse-blood b/c I think Taly's interactions with skitter in particular feel like they're distancing when skitter can't be elim'd due to event rules and defending her & her replacement Firebringer in the next event when they were actually in danger. (among other things but it's in my iso if you want to read over and bug me about it)

Also if you're not phone-posting Ctrl+F Slaughter Hour in the Private Topics to find heaven/blue in there, if you don't see them you might need to bug Morning Tweet for access

[Taly]

Why are you still casing a dead toucan?

[the worst]

Oh. I can see the heaven pt. thank you, i hadn't made the heaven=blue connection.

[Taly]

Find a new script to read off of

Ggy

[Gammagooey]

Oh. I can see the heaven pt. thank you, i hadn't made the heaven=blue connection.

no they're different PTs

[Taly]

I am less sure of Ydrasse-town (and I'm the one who put up Ydrasse/Taly as the possible elims for today if you're wondering, after being elected ruler in the Heaven PT) but do think a few of his points in there about Ydrasse seem valid.

Lmfao keeping Ydra option open, huh?