Anything uPick (Endgame)

[GrandpaMo]

I think I want to claim later on...

[Good Luck Buddy]

It's very much not. If it's a lie then it is a lie that is guaranteed to be found out

how will we even know when lylo is in a large theme

[Datisi]

faction numbers are confirmed

dumbslip denied

[Gypyx]

factions ratio is public

like, can y'all just maybe sort how you view my claim before voting? that would be very appreciated tyty

pedit : darn you dat is i

[Good Luck Buddy]

LOL

[jjh927]

If you want to know why I don't engage with you on this very much, it's because you're very aggressive and often misrepresenting things in your favour.

You shouldn't have Clemency in your solve because Titus claimed an innocent result on Clemency. No, that doesn't imply you're not going with the consensus. Clemency WAS a consensus scumread before that.
You also don't get to imply that players are valid scumreads when you scumread them and LHF when I have them in a rather optimistically small pool for a solve. I don't particularly have any reason to believe ratmans or loftwing or SS are scum, just that I believe everyone else is town and need pressure there.

But yeah, your tone is extremely rude and reads as though you know I'm town. I'm being a massive thorn in your side and it's pretty clear by the way that you are attacking me and insulting my intelligence that you know my stance is genuine

First point -- is not true.. That is why I am aggressive is because you have misrepresented me all of this game.
Second point -- didn't they point a innocent result on someone else not clem?
Third point -- Clem wasn't a consensus scumread before this they were just LHF. I was the one who pointed out they could be possible scum.
Fourth point -- That makes no sense with your implicaition. If you don't have no reason to believe they are scum then that means you need to narrow your town pool and start pushing more. You are stick up with so many people being town that you had to result to LHF to being part of your scum solve. I actually have reasons -- you don't.

My tone isn't rude. I only called you a hypocrital liar which may come of as rude... but that's all it it; I am just stating the facts. I am not insulting your intelligence at all. You just keep making shit up that isn't true and anyone can see that.

Question... do you think I am scum doing this on purpose?

do you think I am town doing this? What is the point of me fighting with you when I could have ignored you as scum and let vic die or gpypyx earlier die?

I am pushing you because you need more pressure. I am still questioning your allignment... I am still questioning if you would continue to me me look bad as scum or town. This happene din my first newbie game but we both took a break from each other and started looking at other people... it was quite a good game after that.

First point- you start by saying it is not true, then state that it is true and your excuse is that I'm doing the thing you're accusing me of.
Second point- No?
Third point- Really? You did that? You invented the idea that low posters could be scum? I mean, you wound up voting Ircher when I wanted to push Gypyx and Clemency for more content in day 1. I don't think you had any influence whatsoever on anyone's reads on the low posters, and you do not get to own scumreads because you claim to have seen them first.
Fourth point: Possibly, but my reads are good. I am confident in my ability for good reason. I don't believe my reads are completely perfect but I do think that I am extremely likely to find most of the scum outside of my hard townreads.

Fifth: Yes, your tone is objectively rude. You did call me a hypocritical liar. You have insulted my intelligence quite brazenly on previous posts. You have continually insulted my credibility without basis, and you have done it again right there by saying I am making shit up. You are the one without basis, given that "and anyone can see it" is rhetoric absolutely coated in sleeze


For your question: Yes, I think you are scum doing this because I am the only person who is actively advocating for your elimination. This is why you absolutely must discredit me, and why you have fixated on me to such an extent.
You could have ignored me, but I think you quite rightly register that I am a significant threat to you and you need to do something about that.

[Not Known 15]

I was assuming that this trial would replace today's elim.

It does.

[Not Known 15]

It's very much not. If it's a lie then it is a lie that is guaranteed to be found out

Yes,

when it is too late.

[Not Known 15]

I think you are misunderstanding the case.
GLB is pushing for victorine whilst shading ircher... then fishes for excuses("Since we are not going to end anytime soon" "Might as well sheep X") to vote ircher... That is a scum move right off the books. And for any of you referring to the earlier play of GLB...... that's a mask. A mask that hides if GLB is town or not. The truth only comes out at the end, close to deadline, when it actually counts.

no no i get what you're saying there, just that this isn't such a decisive case i think?

like, idk about y'all, but i rarely think "oh yeah i'm gonna mention this 50 pages old post as a reason for voting x" and even less when encouraging someone else to do the vote, you need situational stuff, something that's current, y'know?

No you were not getting what I am saying there, otherwise you'd not have said that my post says that victorine is town.

And I don't get exactly what you mean with that last sentence, but the last vote to be issued by someone on the previous day, on the wagon that got hammered, is hardly insignificant.

thats the lie. Gypyx told here that he was getting what I said when he clearly wasnt.
Its a telling sign that Gypyx does so during the defense of GLB.
Then there is the fact that Gypyx said they were ready to talk and then went undercover after being asked for a result until the situation clarified itself and it was safe to claim nothing happened.
The elimination order is Gypyx->people spewed scum by Gypyx (GLB, partially also because of his vote avoidance)
The reason for that claim is supremely obvious: It allows two scum to go unpunished, especially GLB, until it is too late and the attention has shifted away from GLB/Gypyx interactions. It allows scum to have miselims instead of scum elims, and allows them to continue to access whatever real power Gypyx has(and GLB).

[Titus]

It's very much not. If it's a lie then it is a lie that is guaranteed to be found out

So he can use his scum abilities until melo?

Don't think so.

[jjh927]

I was assuming that this trial would replace today's elim.

It does.

Okay then

Explain yourself

Why did you choose to make the elim into this nonsense? This clearly scumsides more than a regular elimination

[jjh927]

Your ability is obviously anti town and yet it was literally the first thing you did

[Gypyx]

gotta love how NK15 builds a whole scumteam off of me being scum lol

i think he's a green flip given i kinda relate with the mindset, plus it sounds kinda too complex for scum to craft from scratch, but please just try to think about it while being a little laid back

[Taly]

I think you misread my point

Jjh

.

I'm not saying to ignore

Gypyx's

claim. I'm saying I feel odd flipping someone who could be an IC.

Titus

, can you explain your thoughts on them being scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

5 scum in Victorine, GMo, NK15, Loftwing, Ratman, SS, listed in order of likelihood.

okay i want to say soemthing.

stop this bs right now.

you literally fucking call 3 people scum that I am/was calling scum. I still have vic/ loft / rat / clem / + 1 more in my scumsolve.

do you rlly think im fucking bussing 3 people? holy shit. its starting to get annoying because u pair me up with these other people who haven't done shit while i have.

and you have nothing on me other than that you made an assumption with me to begin with.

i will clear everything up later on.

Clem got inno’d
Reading is tech.

[Taly]

GMO

, most interactions I have with you contain you saying something to me that I've exclusively heard come from scum in previous games, or at least more often scum than town at the very least.

[Taly]

I'm officially on the

Vic

-scum train and I'm not leaving.

[Taly]

Here's why:

i still don't understand ircher confidence on victorine and he has spent more time arguing about how he determines a confidence level than he has on explain why he is actually confident enough about victorine to justify the statement of "why not yeet ME first and then not victorine"

like u should be dead certain and ready to justify that read if ur willing to put ur own head in the guillotine. And here we just get "trust me"
I swear ircher is actually trying to get victorine yeeted with these bad level defense.

the reverse psychology game

This is shading of Ircher whilst going for victorine.

Nancy u can vote victorine.

going for victorine.

Almost 500 post in 19 hours

then vote victorine.
if u want a day to end. vote for biggest wagon.

continuing...

i think ircher willing to fall on the sword is weird too.
I think we can examine that tomorrow.

shading again, subtly, yet pushing for "tomorrow"

Can I exchange this townread for an extra rare yugioh card

Since we not going to end anytime soon
VOTE: Ircher
Might as well sheep Sakura on her questioning of ircher

Fishing for an excuse despite shading previously.

It is clear.

Spoiler: If you are still not convinced that they are a witch...

I'm very curious. Was

GLB

the only person pushing for

Vic

that was complacent with an

Ircher

lim?

[Taly]

I'm back to wanting, like, 8 people killed

[Taly]

Anyone that's not a townread can just flip

[Taly]

I want to drink the blood of my foes

[Taly]

Ydra

, why did you target

Gypyx

?

[Taly]

I think... I think... I think I want to drop my paranoia of

jjh

... maybe.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm very curious. Was GLB the only person pushing for Vic that was complacent with an Ircher lim?

I think I preferred Vic over Ircher pretty staunchly but that might be editorializing

[Taly]

Like what's the worst that can happen?

I gamesolve and powertown with

jjh

and town has a chance of winning this game

Or I'm pocketed by the strongest wolf in the game and die late game in an incredibly frustrating manner over it.

Nothing that doesn't happen to me the majority of my games already.

GAMMA

, I DEMAND YOUR COUNSEL ON THIS.