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[Hella Jeff]

doesn't t3 have a history of claims that don't benefit the game at all as the cool town alignment
i know he did it in a newbie game once
what are the differences between this game, that one newbie game (might link later) and the one where he claimed odd night xxx even night traffic analyst or something like that

[Hella Jeff]

t3, y claim BG and do fuck all with your guaranteed d1 survival

[Almost50]

Y not just kill T3.

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe if we have a vig. But leaving T3 alive leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Hella Jeff]

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

why is the doctor that's been detected by enchant's voyeur likely to be scum?

[Almost50]

What's an outed goon gonna do? I want the ROLE COP as a primary target, THEN we can worry about the Doctor. Solve the game early then leave it on "auto-pilot". If we get the Doctor and there's a Vig they can shoot T3 at will. If we we get the Role Cop we know the Vig is safe from being outed at night.

[Almost50]

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

why is the doctor that's been detected by enchant's voyeur likely to be scum?

Oh, God! You're scum aren't you??? I will concede I lost the game EVEN if we do win it.

I'll respond though for the simple minded players: April claimed Doctor and wasn't CC'd. That ON TOP OF a BG claim on D1. What TOWN Doctor doesn't come out at that point?

So either an UNKNOWN SCUM DOCTOR was on T3, or April himself is the SCUM DOCTOR and is lying about having targeted S_S

[Almost50]

Guys (and girls): Am I assuming/expecting too much of certain players? I don't even think I'm doing anything "overly clever" here. I'm running with basic scum hunting logic. Like, it's literally Mafia 101 (Mafia as in THIS GAME, not the alignment)

[osuka]

Y not just kill T3.

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

counterpoint: if t3 is gated scum pr, isnt it sensible to let someone else perform the night kill?

[Hella Jeff]

So either an UNKNOWN SCUM DOCTOR was on T3, or April himself is the SCUM DOCTOR and is lying about having targeted S_S

so it isn't conclusive kk, that's what i was trying to figure out

That ON TOP OF a BG claim on D1. What TOWN Doctor doesn't come out at that point?

one that's able to target the BG and synergize?

[Almost50]

Y not just kill T3.

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

counterpoint: if t3 is gated scum pr, isnt it sensible to let someone else perform the night kill?

Countercounterpoint: What gated Scum PR stays put on D1? Give me ONE Role you think would do that.

[Almost50]

one that's able to target the BG and synergize?

A Doctor that will protect a BG that said they were going to protect the other Doctor claim which is -to the unclaimed Doctor- confirmed Scum fake claiming??

[Almost50]

Also, a combination of a Town BG + Town Doctor is a NO-NO because it creates a "circular protection loop". IF there's an unclaimed Town Doctor (other that April) they have to be Roaming. They can never be -say- Complex or FULL or even multiple-shots, and if there is a Roaming Doctor they should have CC'd April on the spot (because only a COMPLEX DOCTOR would believe a Simple Doctor's claim, but then they would know better that to believe the BG claim)

[Almost50]

I mean, people were already suspicious of the BG+Simple Doctor combination, and you think ANOTHER Doctor thought it was sensible?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Y not just kill T3.

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

But like we don’t even know for sure T3’s teammates, but we do know T3 likely mafia.
I’m not some risk taker.
Scum is confirmed scum we lim scum ktnx.

[Almost50]

I am not asking you to vote my way. I am saying I am not voting yours. kthnx

[Hella Jeff]

damn i feel ENLIGHTENED now
thanks, excuse my mechanical ignorance

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah?
Well then i’m not inviting you to my birthday party next year.
How about THAT?

Hmph.

[Something_Smart]

I can't think of any reason why getting rid of the goon is beneficial when there's a claimed follower... oh wait.

[April Ludgate]

Btw, t3 should be on me tonight. Not going to elaborate why

actually, i think you need to elaborate on why here.

You said you were targeted by an Announcing Role Cop, and no townie is taking credit for that, meaning it's scum.

This means scum would know your role.

So why should t3 have been on you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Um. To prevent him from dying?

[April Ludgate]

Um. To prevent him from dying?

why does that matter over others?

[April Ludgate]

he's a claimed miller who said a role cop checked him. no reason for him to go that path. i think dwlee has scum chance from it.


I also dont think A50 takes that path he is as scum.

T3, Dwlee, then one of Andante/Osuka, leaning Andante.

[April Ludgate]

unless im overthinking, and it's just norwegian.

[April Ludgate]

i personally dont mind leaving t3 alive to get another flip.