Newbie 2084: Signs [game over!]

[Cabd]

Okay so maybe trying edibles the night you make it to Lim minus one wasn't the best of ideas.

AMA

[Cabd]

Guess not. Tough crowd. What's a guy gotta do to get properly read from a catch-up these days anyways?

Hawkie if I was scum I'd just be screaming and throwing a tantrum and uh. A vote. At it.

Like it's refuge in audacity...

About something. I forget. I feel like I explained already so eh.

[Cabd]

Oh right that is be voting hawkie right now.

Prism prolly thinks that's antitown of me but my reads suck so like better me than running up a potential pr? Just bank the first flip being green and pray to the randomness goddess that they do something useful for data tomorrow.

[Prism]

If I weren't waiting on StrangeMatter I would hammer right now just to end this.

[Prism]

I think it is a real shame that you are not invested in flipping your scumread.

[Cabd]

I mean that's not entirely how I feel but I'm also aware time is tight.

I think maybe I'm not good enough when I fail to spot something from outside the fog of war. A better player could have done that. Instead the universe got me.

Sorry prism. I know you take every game much more seriously than I do and I feel like I've let you down now ;(

[Cape90]

I mean that's not entirely how I feel but I'm also aware time is tight.

I think maybe I'm not good enough when I fail to spot something from outside the fog of war. A better player could have done that. Instead the universe got me.

Sorry prism. I know you take every game much more seriously than I do and I feel like I've let you down now ;(

Okay

What is your plan for the remainder of the time. You got your reads out there, why not just hammer? What else do you want to accomplish by frankly wasting time not hammering scum who responded poorly to both me and Prism?

[Prism]

I don't think my expectations matter, but I was sincerely hoping for a foundationally sound performance in a Newbie game.

[Prism]

I will be around to hammer tomorrow as needed.

[Cape90]

ProHawk's Town Game: Newbie 2002

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82899 - I don't know how to make hyperlinks so here is the link to the thread.

Spoiler:

This is directly taken from the town game I linked. There are some similarities in the beginning like how ProHawk asks for mafia experience and all that. Hmm but where did all of this energy come from? I look at this game and I am like... ProHawk seemed to be fairly natural in the town game and this game it just seems... lacking.

Spoiler:

You know, this reminds me of 302. However this feels like night and day, the wall that I posted images of from Hawk's Town Newbie game is a much better wall then the one in 302 which literally omits context when the context itself would have extinguished the worries that ProHawk had about the trajectory onto him. (Yes yes I am aware the wall I called good is a wall tunneling on the town doctor).

Spoiler:

A whole other wall on Deimos.

Spoiler:

ProHawk is way more lax about getting suspicion on his slot here then he is this game.

Spoiler:

A readslist unlike anything ProHawk has made this game (469 is ProHawk's list this game). Might be completely NAI but I am noting it.

Anyway feel free to check out the game for yourself, Hawk dies after day 1 going into day 2 by night kill.

correcting a typo that broke half the post ~D

[Cape90]

???

I swear I didn't do anything differently from the other 2 spoilers. Why are links that lead to nothing popping up?

I feel like a boomer right now trying to figure this out

[Datisi]

vote count 1.12

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 00:30:00).

elimination

Cabd [4]:

Meuh, Greeting, ProHawk, MegAzumarill

ProHawk [3]:

Prism, marcistar, Cape90

not voting [2]:

Cabd, StrangeMatter

mod notes

~ this vc was made using only the vote counter, please let me know if there are any mistakes

flavour

[Greeting]

If someone is wondering if it’s the right time to hammer or not then I answer:

yes, it is

.

[Prism]

Still here to hammer if needed, and you can treat not doing so as a scumclaim from me.

I am adamant that we hear something from StrangeMatter today. Not commenting on either wagon is unacceptable.

[Prism]

Perfect timing, Greeting.

I will 100% be around and hammer as necessary barring severe physical injury. We will not no-elim as long as there are no random unvotes, so rest easy on that front.

[Greeting]

Still here to hammer if needed, and you can treat not doing so as a scumclaim from me.

I am adamant that we hear something from StrangeMatter today. Not commenting on either wagon is unacceptable.

Perfect timing, Greeting.

I will 100% be around and hammer as necessary barring severe physical injury. We will not no-elim as long as there are no random unvotes, so rest easy on that front.

Good.

I’m shocked and appalled that

StrangeMatter

just vanished at the climax of Day One, knowing their vote might be crucial to the outcome of this Day. They haven’t checked in the last, what, 24 hours?

StrangeMatter

are not a new player, they’ve played and spectated several times before. So unless something urgent happened on their part, I am treating this as a scumlean.

[StrangeMatter]

Nah I've just been stressed to try to get into this game more but just can't.

I feel like the Cabd wagon feels weird in a way. Asu was null (had literally nothing on them) and I don't really feel like I have much we can actually read at this point. And I feel like the strongest point is ProHawk's, though I really can't comment on meta part as I've only played one game with them. I still have them as null but really I just don't have anything on them.

[Prism]

...And given exactly two options, which would you pick?

[Prism]

You literally have the decisive vote. Right now you are, in practical effect, voting Cabd but not making this explicit. You are forcing me to vote him for you.

[StrangeMatter]

You literally have the decisive vote. Right now you are, in practical effect, voting Cabd but not making this explicit. You are forcing me to vote him for you.

In what world do I in particular want you to vote him for me? I have him as null right now and I'm going to reread with how stale my read on Cabd is.

[Prism]

You can reread but if you did not vote, we no elim. The only way to avoid this is Cabd selfhammering or someone on ProHawk swapping. I have volunteered to be this person who will swap if needed, in return for making sure we have as much time as possible to hear from you.

[Greeting]

If the choice is

ProHawk

, I should be around in around 2-3 hours in time to switch to the other wagon. Noelim is bad and I want to avoid it if possible.

[Prism]

Even if you have them both null, and do not know which to vote, it is important to understand the mechanical takeaway here.

The game is deadlocked, and without your vote neither wagon will go successfully build a coalition to go through.

This risks no elim, which mechanically throws away like 10%+ of the town's chance of winning with random mechanical choices. You need to get in the habit of voting ahead of time even if it's not what you're confident in.

[StrangeMatter]

Cabd is coming in all kinds of buddy buddy hey guys remember this game and that let's use the history we have together to skew my reads... And if memory also serves right, he uses meta as scum to frame most arguments for mis-eliminations.

It's still dumb to me that he hasn't voted considering the time we have renaming.

VOTE: Cabd

Alright, reading has taken almost nowhere, can you please give an example of this?

[Prism]

Just to commit to a more explicit time: I will hammer with 1 hour to deadline if necessary.