Open 837: Cop Killer - Endgame

[mc esther]

i had an earlier version of that post that suggested draw or even town win from the grave as alternatives, idk how i cut that part out

[DArby]

the no-kill was explained here. t3 was obviously trying a misguided solo, so i told him exactly why he couldnt do that. he did it anyway. ngl im a little mad lol, but i misplayed the previous day so i probably shouldnt be.

t3 im not shooting tonight, you can shoot me if you want but you'll lose

@t3

i wish we could just do this the easy "you shoot darby i'll shoot pav" way but you made it pretty clear last night that youre not interested in co-operation lol. i'll no-kill, you shoot whichever townie want, and tomorrow we can either eliminate the remaining townie together for the jointwin. or if you really want, you can vote me tomorrow and gamble on the remaining townie kingmaking you (but i dont really get why you'd do this, the role pm says the jointwin is a win).

Not gonna lie, I was too gobsmacked the game was still alive to go back and find that post, lol

I’m halfway surprised there was a town win anyway because I missed all of this too lol.

[DArby]

im not sure if mafia should be allowed to joint. both because i think they could pretty easily trivialize the game with long-term jointwin plans, but also because im not a fan of wincons that dont necessarily match how the players feel about them (like, some players view solo as a "greater" victory while others are more "role pm says win, a win is a win").

I agree with this. Take out joint win but I’d prefer there be flavor.

[DArby]

Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.

[Bingle]

the no-kill was explained here. t3 was obviously trying a misguided solo, so i told him exactly why he couldnt do that. he did it anyway. ngl im a little mad lol, but i misplayed the previous day so i probably shouldnt be.

Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts reliably but T3 legitimately game threw. If you had decided to screw him over, your choice was to shoot him, not shoot the other town.

If T3 was worried you were going to screw him the solution was to no kill to test.

[Bingle]

because im not a fan of wincons that dont necessarily match how the players feel about them (like, some players view solo as a "greater" victory while others are more "role pm says win, a win is a win").

Feature, not a flaw, imo. Also to trivialize the setup you need a game state of 4v2v2 without a doc.

[Not_Mafia]

Thoughts on the set-up? There a lot of little things that could be handled in different ways in this set-up so looking for people's thoughts

Any thoughts on taking out the kill flavors? I'm not sure which I prefer, but I do feel it gives a lot of information and the game might be more difficult/interesting without it

Yeah I could definitely try running it without them, but in a wifom game I wanted as much information out there as possible and town get very little information compared to scum without them

[Pavowski]

Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.

Take it easy D!

[Roden]

Wait what? We won!? Holy shit lol. GG, I played awful but still had fun.

[Galron]

I dunno, town shoulda got rolled in this one despite hitting scum d1

[Galron]

Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.

When you start dreaming about games, you'll be back.

[Galron]

gg

Thanks for the game, N_M!

[T3]

IM SO CONFUSED

[T3]

I wasnt trying to solo

[T3]

wtf was my thought process in killing esther??????d

[T3]

oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH

[Pavowski]

oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH

This is actually not a terrible assumption, esp given that the doctor is explicitly described as compulsive

[mc esther]

oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH

ahahaha it's okay i hard bussed looker the previous day solely because i misread my role pm

[mc esther]

Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts

yeah, for some reason i decided that 1:1:2 was a win. i spent pretty much the entire game miscounting players and fundamentally misunderstanding the game state, definitely not great play on my end.

[Pavowski]

Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts

yeah, for some reason i decided that 1:1:2 was a win. i spent pretty much the entire game miscounting players and fundamentally misunderstanding the game state, definitely not great play on my end.

I am not mad at you or t3 for the way it played out

I just lost a monster of a game and I will take this win however it comes

We're not gonna talk about how deep I was in MC's pocket though, nope not at all

[Auro]

LOL I love this setup.

It was a pleasure playing with all of you. Hope to see you guys around in future games!

[Bingle]

Auro I immediately to mod a jester game.

[Bingle]

Inned. Damn autocorrect.

[Bingle]

definitely not great play on my end.

Disagree. I think you played an amazing game and wish we’d been scum together when I wasn’t burned out on mafia. Making little mech mistakes like you did is just something that happens.

[mc esther]

hehe thanks;; hopefully if i stick around a few years and your hiatus isnt too long, we can roll buddies again