Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Firebringer]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

[Harley Quinn]

how come that is the only thing you respond to that? and again, i do not care. norwee was town, good job, doesn't mean norwee was right.

You are giving me zero confidence to trust you, so if I’m actually wrong about you, this isn’t helping. I also don’t think you’re this terrible at reading me and I’m still lowkey suspicious you’re possibly priming to miselim me later.

[Datisi]

first of all, that's not my name

my problem is that I think you’re better at reading me

WHAT is giving you this idea? which one of our encounters made you think that i know how to read your alignment? i misread you in both silent star and miccro what are you on about???

i'm gonna keep bringing this up until you answer it, btw.

[Titus]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

[Firebringer]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

[Datisi]

no actually, fire is right, you don't care about what i'm saying and you're just gonna be a broken record repeating the same shit over and over again

i'm gonna go watch chess on youtube, pretend i know what i'm watching, and head to bed

[Harley Quinn]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

Sorry no, that’s bullshit. I’m trying to parse him and hr isn’t helping do that so far.

[Datisi]

titus, acknowledge my 4952, please.

fire, you're my lawyer while i'm alseep, pls get titus to acknowledge this post because i actually want to hear her response

see ya after i have my coffee tomorrow morning

or noon more realistically

[Firebringer]

lawyerdog on the case.

Titus as dats attorney i would like u to acknowledge post 4952
and pls sign and read out loud that you have received the message

[Titus]

@Datisi,

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Every other pair has a common sense reason why they've got at least one town person. Most pairs are tvt. You aren't focused on announcing who is town and instead picking on the slot most likely to impload when it should be clear they're town via the proposal and Shiro's WIM.

The fact you voted me after they've provided every answer to your questions feels disingenuous. It feels like you're scraping and I can't find any other reason for it.

I want to pin you down on who is town besides GL.

are these desperate times? really?

i repeated so many times that firebringer is town. i gave you a readslist like three seconds after you asked for one. i don't know which game you are reading where i don't have any reads but it sure as hell isn't this one.

i am picking on the slot most likely to implode. do you just conveniently leave out that they're most likely to implode ON THE PERSON PICKING ON THEM? *how* does that benefit me in any way???

what about that proposal means the pair is t/t. they paired because they're friends. what are you talking about.

currently shiro is voting me for reasons that have been *unexplained* AT BEST, and i don't see much elsewhere. is this wim supposed to be townie? is shiro one of those players that just doesn't play as scum at all? and why am i, someone who has never played with shiro, supposed to townread him on?

they provided what? i still think they're scummy. i still think shiro's reasoning for voting me is nonsense and harley is being a huge hypocrite. but i can admit that i might be wrong and i'm getting tunneled on distractions.

you already asked me for reads and i provided them and what is this bullshit about wanting to pin me down and you pretending gl!town is the only read i have given in this game

I didn't say you didn't produce reads. That's a misrep. I feel if we were actually talking to each other, you'd see that 90+ percent of the game has been cleared and scum are desperate. That's why the Shiro push gets recycled.

An implosion means HQ is more likely to get limmed on policy. It's good for scum to provoke

I already answered why lily slot is clear based marci not seeking to do that as S v S early.

I want to see what the game looks like to you if you suppose shiro, hq, myself and std are town.

[Harley Quinn]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Because my “world view” or whatever moniker is being used to discredit me is untrue. How am I supposed to dialogue with Dats, if he won’t even throw me a bone? I can’t.

And I’m really getting irritated with having other people tell me what my thought process is and discrediting it. I’m trying to see if Dats is on the level or not and he’s not giving me anything so far.

[Titus]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

No. It's the opposite. Nancy tries to understand but struggles. It's the same reason she implodes when pushed.

[Titus]

HQ, do you think NorwegianboyEE was eliminated by his reads or pushed by wrong town who happened to get lucky?

[Firebringer]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

No. It's the opposite. Nancy tries to understand but struggles. It's the same reason she implodes when pushed.

No, ur basically agreeing with me. Ur just arguing intention with me not what is actually happening. Which I don't even care about arguing over.

[Titus]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

No. It's the opposite. Nancy tries to understand but struggles. It's the same reason she implodes when pushed.

No, ur basically agreeing with me. Ur just arguing intention with me not what is actually happening. Which I don't even care about arguing over.

Intention is how to read people though and I'm not saying it's pointless just patience is required.

[Firebringer]

Titus am i right or wrong if i say u don't really think individually what GL or even dats is scummy. You are just poking around what is happening with game and think whats happening with those two smelly.

Like its not an individual read is what im saying.
Right or wrong

[Harley Quinn]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

No. It's the opposite. Nancy tries to understand but struggles. It's the same reason she implodes when pushed.

That is actually true. I get unfairly accused of having a bad attitude when I get ragged on for not getting something. So, it’s extremely upsetting to me when I don’t get believed. I get extremely upset when I know I’m obvtown and it’s not getting seen but it also really pisses me off when my solve gets shit on because I have correctly caught scum in a lot of games but never get the credit. Why no one nommed me for my big brained play of vigging scum!Krazy in me v you, is still something that baffles me, because we probably won the game at least in part due to that.

[Firebringer]

Hey look we all agree with what ur doing.
So maybe you can stop

[Titus]

Titus am i right or wrong if i say u don't really think individually what GL or even dats is scummy. You are just poking around what is happening with game and think whats happening with those two smelly.

Like its not an individual read is what im saying.
Right or wrong

Mix of both.
I hate GL's opening.
I hate Datisi's push on HQ and Shiro.
I hate how their reads are carbon copies.
I hate how they don't seem to acknowledge the viable scum pool is really low due to marci interactions.

[Firebringer]

Titus am i right or wrong if i say u don't really think individually what GL or even dats is scummy. You are just poking around what is happening with game and think whats happening with those two smelly.

Like its not an individual read is what im saying.
Right or wrong

Mix of both.
I hate GL's opening.
I hate Datisi's push on HQ and Shiro.
I hate how their reads are carbon copies.
I hate how they don't seem to acknowledge the viable scum pool is really low due to marci interactions.

1) don't remember GLs openning. But okay
2) ill need to review why u don't like dats push on hq but why don't u find my push on them fine but his bad
3) i mean they are sharing a pt and its pretty clear to me they are using it to discuss....u would think they would sync,right? Why is this scummy?
4) i don't think scum pool is at all small right now lol

[Harley Quinn]

HQ, do you think NorwegianboyEE was eliminated by his reads or pushed by wrong town who happened to get lucky?

That’s a tough one because if scum, they were obviously bussing. My working theory is town was likeliest on the front hafl of the wagon and like I said, why does marci selfhammer if not a single scum was on that wagon? In FFIV no scum were on Elsa wagon but she never self hammered. I mean sure it’s possible that all scum was offwagon but unlikely due to self hammer.

And STD and Alyssa were the earliest votes. Marci was very obviously trying to survive until she just gave up, so a coordinated bus seems unlikely.

[Firebringer]

i want to be clear im asking u questions not so that u convince me gl/dats is scum or i convince u there town. I am more or less hoping this will convince dats/gl to stop thinking u could be scum or ur not really taking them seriously

[Harley Quinn]

Like anytime HQ comes at u with a "I don't understand this" or "Please help me understand" don't take that bait. She isn't trying to undersatnd u, she is just trying to get u to continue the conversation so she can argue with u more. Thats an FYI to everyone who is getting upset when u get stuck in these argument circles with her.

She isn't genuinely trying to understand ur POV. When she says she doesn't understand what she means is "I don't understand why you dont just agree with me. You should be agreeing with me". Thats all it is.

That's not true. It may seem that way but Nancy has a hard time understanding things that don't go along with her worldview.

Thats basically what i just said.

No. It's the opposite. Nancy tries to understand but struggles. It's the same reason she implodes when pushed.

No, ur basically agreeing with me. Ur just arguing intention with me not what is actually happening. Which I don't even care about arguing over.

You have absolutely no clue how to understand even the first goddamned thing about me, so just stop because it’s really pissing me off.

[Firebringer]

I actually understand you very well. My mother is a carbon copy of you Harley.

[Harley Quinn]

Hey look we all agree with what ur doing.
So maybe you can stop

So maybe you can not engage with me until you stop insulting me?