open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Faker]

iirc the name of the game was Seeing Stars? I can't find it on Google but translating the analogy to something I am more familiar with might help

[skitter30]

and like if you think the people who aren't

doing anything

are scummy and you think the game state is stagnant, it's kind of easy to actually cast a vote that will matter instead of vanity voting SA who isn't really even here?

it just feels like you're going through the motions rather than actually doing something that will move the game state forward.

anyways do you want to vote MWB together? you think he is mafia anyway right?

ok i'm back, sorry for bouncing in the middle:

- this interaction actually pinged me quite a lot, and the first thought that popped into my head is that you're scum with sleepless / trying to get me to move my vote off of him for some reason
- i utterly hate the bolded and it feels rather manipulative, so no
- i'm not sure why voting mwb 'together' would be a selling point
- i made it clear in a few different ways / a few different times that i'm worried about the slots Without Content, and i'm trying to change that by making them provide content. in a fairly stagnant gamestate where we're rapidly running otu of time, why is this a problem?
-- sure it might be an 'easy' vote but given the above context i'm not sure why you're objecting to it
- i really don't care about who picked over/under 7, and even if that's how you're approaching the game, i'm not sure why you think that's how *i* would be approaching the game, and i think given that it invalidates the crux of your issue with my mwb interactions, which, quite frankly, i think are silly

[skitter30]

And i gotta bounce like now but i'll pick this up tom, have a great weekend!

ok happy new year!!! <3 ya

ty <3
hope you had (are having) a happy new year

[skitter30]

What's the significance of 'under 7' anyways / why would i care abt that?

I split the slots in my head into under 7 / over 7 cuz that's about where you can expect to get a power role.(its not science its just me guessing)

I think scum are incentivized in this setup to go into the low numbers to get good stuff to deny it to town and make themselves harder to yeet.

I think of the game as trying to figure out who the baddies are in the low numbers and then using that to sort the rest of the game because I think it's almost impossible for scum to go all high numbers and win this game?

ok well this isn't how i'm approaching this game

[skitter30]

I'm not 100% of the way on mwb and its possible she is baiting me in some way to push town mwb by being coy and slippery.

how am i baiting you to push town mwb when you're the one who:
- asked me how i was reading him
- asked me to vote him with you

and i didn't bring him up to you ...

[skitter30]

sleepless, i read your long wall psot and my vote is real now, as in i actually scumread you and it's not just a pressure vote anymore

a few notes:
- a large portion of that is iioa

- iv:

-I voted Innocentvillager because he comes off nervous. Your entrance is where your Role PM is most fresh in your mind. Starting with a VT claim, then being sure to tell us it's a "serious claim haha", then showing regret at opening the thread while tired all reads like someone who is feeling way too awkward right at the start of a game.

this is silly and feels like backwards-justifying your rvs vote that you got some flak for

- the other reasons you have to scurmead him feel nitpicky and minor, and like you're trying to find reasons to push him
- and is ignoring like most of his thread presence ?

- nsg:

North, we're gonna have to do some real time interaction because your reads are so far off from mine and at the time I'm typing this I have zero clue on your alignment.

If it doesn't become more clear to me as I read, I'll want explanations on your reads on Catboi, Innocentvillager, midway, and Datisi.

this is bizarre, why are you calling out nsg's reads in particular / why do you feel this way about nsg and not anybody else?

[skitter30]

I need to stop lying to myself and pretending that I'm going to reread the past pages and make meaningful commentary.

so start from here then if that's not going to happen ...

we're starting to get into radio buzz territory again ...

[skitter30]

Datisi. I can confirm that that post is in fact a drunken mess.

true but probably a town one tbh

[skitter30]

UNVOTE:
After reading Pooky's next few posts, I can see his reasoning and that quote that I voted him for doesn't feel that malicious anymore.
VOTE: skitter

back to my rvs vote but for non-random reasons

(well even that first vote technically wasn't random).
Faker, I think you are reading too much into 1507 as a pocket onto you.

and those are

[Datisi]

Datisi. I can confirm that that post is in fact a drunken mess.

true but probably a town one tbh

hm?

[skitter30]

northsidegal I think those are supposed to be Yu-Gi-Oh! references or something but I generally only play Bejeweled Twist and when I was a kid that game where someone throws a brick directly up and you all run in a circle and try to dodge without looking so this is all over my head sorry

prism i just want to say that you make me laugh sometimes

[skitter30]

Datisi. I can confirm that that post is in fact a drunken mess.

true but probably a town one tbh

hm?

it was kinda ~honest~ especially since you wrote it while drunk, feels a little too elaborate and *real* for scum-drunk-you to come up with

[skitter30]

what are your thoughts on sleepless?

[innocentvillager]

Datisi. I can confirm that that post is in fact a drunken mess.

true but probably a town one tbh

hm?

it was kinda ~honest~ especially since you wrote it while drunk, feels a little too elaborate and *real* for scum-drunk-you to come up with

I mean the self meta is probably all true but why is it town?

[skitter30]

i don't really know how to explain better than that, it didn't feel faked and i don't think he would have written that as scum

[innocentvillager]

like the entire post could be true except for the fact that he’s actually just not obvtown this game because he’s, well, scum

but like everything else is true (since there are games where he’s town but not obvtown so gets scumread by ppl)

[innocentvillager]

why wouldn’t he have written it as scum? It feels like a perfect explanation for why he’s underwhelming this game that’s easy to write while drunk because the self meta part is true

[Datisi]

it was kinda ~honest~ especially since you wrote it while drunk, feels a little too elaborate and *real* for scum-drunk-you to come up with

i mean it was honest yeah, but like it was facts of (1) i always scumread iv (2) what my meta is (3) i don't know what nsg scumgame is like - it's things that even if i wanted to lie about them, there's no gain for me to lie about them, and there's no way for me to get away with lying about them

if you wanna make an argument that it's tonally town or something then maybe, but honest? yes it was honest but do you imagine scum!me would've lied about any of that? or how do you imagine scum!me would write it

also i haven't read the huge post yet and i'm watching something rn so i'll read it in a bit

[innocentvillager]

I need to stop lying to myself and pretending that I'm going to reread the past pages and make meaningful commentary.

so start from here then if that's not going to happen ...

we're starting to get into radio buzz territory again ...

what did he do in radio buzz that was similar to here? lurk/low effort?

[innocentvillager]

i feel like when you say you always scumread me it confuses people into thinking you actually think I’m scum

can u find a different phrasing looool

[skitter30]

i don't have a better honest for the dats' post other than: it felt townie to me, and real, and i don't think he writes it as scum
(dats yeah i'm basically saying it was a tonal read, and i don't know how scum-you would have written it, but i don't think it would have turned out like that, and i'm not sure scum-you writes it *then* but rather waits a bit)

and you were like *eager* to write out all of the meta and i'm not sure scum-you would be, especially if it draws scrutiny to how you're playing here ...
especially that big 'i care more as scum' paragraph, i just dont' think you write it as scum in that context

~
@iv wrt radio buzz: he repped in as scum, promised content for like a week+ and never delievered, and he's starting to feel similar here in that he's not even really trying

[skitter30]

* a better answer ugh

[skitter30]

also i haven't read the huge post yet and i'm watching something rn so i'll read it in a bit

ok i would appreciate if you read it when you have a chance (could be tomorrow) and lmk what you think
(and tbh that goes for everyone, i think most people skipped it because nobody reacted >_>)

[innocentvillager]

hmm

I mean I just feel like I had a self meta argument that convincing (look I was town in all these games where people scumread me for not being obvtown - that’s why you shouldn’t kill me for not being obvtown) I would be eager to bullshit that too and could do it drunk

[Datisi]

i feel like when you say you always scumread me it confuses people into thinking you actually think I’m scum

can u find a different phrasing looool

i do think you're scum! i am just also aware that my read on you and your actual alignment don't actually correlate at all! but yes i get how that could be confusing