Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Something_Smart]

I don't understand any of that post honestly. I haven't tried to shut down many things other than this, and I've been pretty insistent that Ydrasse shouldn't endgame, it's not a reactive thing. I have presented my own reads, and preferred leave order, and I've said that I will defer to what Taly wants.

I am in a good position gamestate-wise, at least I hope so, so why wouldn't I want to keep it that way, regardless of my alignment?

[Ydrasse]

because the gamestate is over no matter how good for u if taly and i endgame lol

[Something_Smart]

Well yes and that's true if I'm town and you're scum too.

[Datisi]

I am in a good position gamestate-wise, at least I hope so, so why wouldn't I want to keep it that way, regardless of my alignment?

i'm not saying you shouldn't want to keep it that way

but i'm saying that you wanting to keep it that way + the fact that i'm not getting the feeling you're interested in much more *other than* keeping it that way is a bit concerning you feel

[Something_Smart]

What would you expect me to be doing as town though? I can't read you or GL for shit, I don't think I could ever become confident on RH9 one way or the other, and I have been trying to work with Taly and Alyssa mostly to try and all get on the same page which seems pretty valuable.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Would it be valuable if my and Taly's PTs were paraphrased in here

[Datisi]

What would you expect me to be doing as town though? I can't read you or GL for shit, I don't think I could ever become confident on RH9 one way or the other, and I have been trying to work with Taly and Alyssa mostly to try and all get on the same page which seems pretty valuable.

i dunno, something. you still townreading galron?

[Something_Smart]

I am. I guess I could ISO dive him; I fully intended to at some point if the game didn't end first, but once some more flips happened so I'd have as much context for it as possible. I'm partially sheeping Alyssa (which is the case with pretty much all my reads, honestly).

[Something_Smart]

Would it be valuable if my and Taly's PTs were paraphrased in here

Probably not to me. I haven't found that PT paraphrasing gives much, you lose a lot in translation and you lose the timing which is pretty important. I guess if there are particularly important sections you want to share.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I always give relative timings when I do mine

[Datisi]

my and gl's pt is 14 pages does anyone wanna read that

[Taly]

I can paraphrase my PT too

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm partially sheeping Alyssa (which is the case with pretty much all my reads, honestly).

This probably isn't the best move

I have reasons to townread and scumread basically every slot still alive and I don't think there's a single person here I would say I can confidently read directly

[Alyssa The Lamb]

My early gamestate read gave me mostly accurate reads based on the flips so maybe I should just go with what I was thinking early game

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm a lemme look little worried about a SvS pair

[Alyssa The Lamb]

How did that even happen

Wtf

[Alyssa The Lamb]

You know what, I don't feel like being blamed for the loss if I try to fit my own some, so I'm just going to hard sheep GL/Dats having scum

And if it's GL, I'm immediately leaving

[Alyssa The Lamb]

My own solve

[Datisi]

i mean frankly i'm way more worried about your alignment if we flip t/t but okay

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't think town ever wins if both of our pairings are TvT

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Only possible way is if it's Galron and SS, but if ydrasse is scum and both of you are town, I really don't think this is winnable

[Taly]

How about every single player takes a turn identifying the final 2 T/T pairs? We have to have at least 2, 3 in the event

Ydra

is not scum and an S/S pair exists.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Galron/SS and one of ours

[RH9]

You know what, I don't feel like being blamed for the loss if I try to fit my own some, so I'm just going to hard sheep GL/Dats having scum

And if it's GL, I'm immediately leaving

If it's GL, I want to leave too.

[RH9]

I think that right now, I'm most worried that there is a chance that GL is Town and Datisi is Town. Then, there's probably scum in S_S and Galron as well as Alyssa and Ydrasse. This means that either Alyssa/me is the T/T or T/S pair, Ydrasse/Taly is the T/T or T/S pair, while S_S/Galron is T/S or S/S.