Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[Pavowski]

Official Vote Count 1.02

Dwlee99

(2): innocentvillager, Dunnstral

mc esther

(1): Dwlee99

Save The Dragons

(1): mc esther

Brighter Puppy

(1): Kuriyama

Not Voting

(4): Save The Dragons, Todoroki, Prism, Brighter Puppy

With 9 employees, it takes 5 to fire.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-01-25 19:54:46).

Mod notes:

[Prism]

I'm reading again and people calling the groups a million names and trying to assign an arbitrary one is tilting me. Brighter clearly mixes up their own nomenclature at one point and it's a giant headache to sort through.

Use the actual numbers (Eg. Group 3/Group 6, 3hood 6hood), it doesn't add length and is unambiguous.

[Brighter Puppy]

I'm reading again and people calling the groups a million names and trying to assign an arbitrary one is tilting me. Brighter clearly mixes up their own nomenclature at one point and it's a giant headache to sort through.

Use the actual numbers (Eg. Group 3/Group 6, 3hood 6hood), it doesn't add length and is unambiguous.

Alpha and Beta for life

[Brighter Puppy]

I am scumreading a slot in hood Sigma. And i trust codename UNICORN from Delta group in hood Omicron.

[Brighter Puppy]

- Norwee

[Brighter Puppy]

I am scumreading a slot in hood Sigma. And i trust codename UNICORN from Delta group in hood Omicron.

would anyone believe me if i said i understood norwee completely here

~fire

[innocentvillager]

-also 4% EV is a LOT imo lol
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It seems close enough that maybe we should just sort everyone and have everyone on the table for today

Is 4% EV a LOT, or is it close enough that we should just ignore it? lol

okay the idea is that for me it kind of boils down to +4% EV vs better associatives

and it's not clear which one's better to me/it's close

so im kind of leaning just playing d1 normally and everyone being a possible elim candidate

i would personally still like to kill to group sigma apple beta because if we decide to kill NSLuke vs mc it's 50% to hit scum but objectively without knowing my alignment i think it's close

[innocentvillager]

actually honestly i feel i should be able to have a decent read on NS by d2 unless his meta changed a lot. im also okay waiting until then and tunneling whoever i think i scum then. so i guess im sort of indifferent, if we kill in kappa delta alpha group we'll still have chances to blow through the tri beta group

[Prism]

I already regret joining this game. I already don't like math, but the fallacies/qualitative points being presented are disgustingly horrendous. I'll tackle them next and then hit my qualitative points

Spoiler: Math

Group of 6 elim townwin scenarios

S*** = 1/6
TSS=(5/6*1/4*1/3)
TSTS=(5/6*1/4*2/3*1/2)
TTSS=(5/6*3/4*1/2*1/3)

Add them all up, 40.97% town win.

Group of 3 elim townwin scenarios

S*** = (1/3*0.556, shortcut via EV Project 6-1 w/ 1 innocent
TTSS=(2/3*1/2*1/3)
TSS=(2/3*1/2*1/5)
TSTS=(2/3*1/2*4/5*1/3)

Add them all up, 45.2% townwin

tl;dr: Notscience is right Bingle is wrong. Shooting first in Group of 6 yields 40.97% win, Group of 3 approximately 45.2%.

[Brighter Puppy]

so prism is scum in alpha

[Prism]

This is absolutely the fastest I have ever wanted to selfvote and get out of a game. Record time.

[Prism]

Absolutely feel free to elaborate on that. Perhaps you could make use of your games with me in the process.

[Brighter Puppy]

ur arguing math instead of getting reads

[Brighter Puppy]

also would appreciate u not push the apathy i hate this game and people playing it angle. its anti fun for everyone involved. no one is forcing u to play a game u don't like. But i am not going to read into any of that shit.

[Prism]

I'm going to clearly state my feelings. You are welcome not to share them.

I do not like math. I despise it. Simultaneously, I am very insistent on following the correct strategy and will do so unashamedly.

[Prism]

And anyone is welcome to lean into tilting me as scum, to be clear. I do not mind.

[Brighter Puppy]

so u going to say u have zero thoughts on players alignments or what.
i disagree with ur "correct strategy" if it is going for beta route never going to side with u on this. So u can "unashamedly" push it all u want

[Dwlee99]

I already regret joining this game. I already don't like math, but the fallacies/qualitative points being presented are disgustingly horrendous. I'll tackle them next and then hit my qualitative points

Spoiler: Math

Group of 6 elim townwin scenarios

S*** = 1/6
TSS=(5/6*1/4*1/3)
TSTS=(5/6*1/4*2/3*1/2)
TTSS=(5/6*3/4*1/2*1/3)

Add them all up, 40.97% town win.

Group of 3 elim townwin scenarios

S*** = (1/3*0.556, shortcut via EV Project 6-1 w/ 1 innocent
TTSS=(2/3*1/2*1/3)
TSS=(2/3*1/2*1/5)
TSTS=(2/3*1/2*4/5*1/3)

Add them all up, 45.2% townwin

tl;dr: Notscience is right Bingle is wrong. Shooting first in Group of 6 yields 40.97% win, Group of 3 approximately 45.2%.

This was my math as well

[Prism]

I am going to get there.

but the fallacies/qualitative points being presented are disgustingly horrendous. I'll tackle them next and then hit my qualitative points

This was poor wording choice because it used "qualitative" in two different sense. The first was qualitative points on strategy. The second was qualitative points on play/players.

[Brighter Puppy]

This is absolutely the fastest I have ever wanted to selfvote and get out of a game. Record time.

Why you freaking out over nothing.

- Norwee

[Prism]

If you think it's scum indicative for me to tilt off of bad arguments/play go meta me. I'll listen to the moralizing another time, save it.

[Brighter Puppy]

I didn't say i thought it was scum indicative.

- Norwee

[Prism]

What a shame, because if you thought you were doing a good turn you are absolutely wrong and telling someone they're upset over nothing, regardless of the truth value of the statement, is a time-tested way to tilt them off the face of the fucking earth.

[Brighter Puppy]

I'm trying to understand where it comes from. I mean, would scum!you care that much if town made bad arguments?

- Norwee

[Brighter Puppy]

its not indicative of alignment norwee. drop it pls.