Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[MathBlade]

Here's a real "readlist"

do your own work gl!

Milk & Mocha (0): Jester
Alyssa The Lamb (0): Probly Town
Three (0): Town
Voyc (0): Mafia
Enchant (0): Very Town
Firebringer (0): ??? I'm confused about this person but if I missed someone it's my buddy FB
numberQ (0): Town?
Dwlee99 (0): Town
Harley Quinn (0): Mafia
MegAzumarill (0): Probably Mafia? I dunno really

Tempted to sheep Pooky on other two but really we just need one to get to tomorrow

Why sheep the jester over dead town?

[MegAzumarill]

What do you find scummy about dwlee's behavior
be specific please

[MathBlade]

Actually fuck the T/S thing. I looked back and I don't think those thoughts I mentioned in my last post are going to coalesce into anything. Plus I woke up way too early this morning for a meeting with people in a time zone 6 hours ahead of mine so maybe I just need to simmer on it for a bit more. Probably gonna take a nap after work then try and settle into my review of the game tonight.

GOSH MISELIM IS STRESSING
i dont want to make the wrong choice

tbh i dont have time tonight to dedicate to this and giving out a readslist, will hopefully be able to tomorrow

I don't think your theory holds up really well Meg, I couldn't even check in during that phase, it was so short

Maybe this is just how she talks but the emotion at the start of this post feels manufactured to me. I glanced through Voyc's ISO she does seem to be pressing people and following up in a towny sort of way, but just something about this post is weird to me. Plus I looked through her predecessor's ISO too and datsi strikes me as much scummier.

Anyway that's about all the brain I can muster right now.

That’s a lot of words to excuse not having an opinion on anything despite having 4 complete days to get one.

[MathBlade]

I think I'll live into tomorrow just cause pooky wants to fuck with me

@Meg:
No scum dead.
Tunneling the jester
Making excuses why not shot when it’s a vanilla game
Choosing to sheep the jester over town when there’s no PRs.

[MathBlade]

I would expect at least one scum on the jester so Imho elimming outside of Dwlee/Numbers/me is a bad elim. (I am town but technically should be in that PoE from an undecided perspective)

[MathBlade]

Like Dwlee knows the point I am making when I said it earlier and then tries to then suggest my own point is bad yet they take the time to suggest why they aren’t shot?

Like that’s hella bad and they know it.

[MathBlade]

I don't think we should lim M&M anymore, not yet anyway

Like it’s even more sus they don’t want to elim NumberQ.

They want credit for the elim on Milk but yet don’t sus those who distanced. It’s weird.

[Dwlee99]

Pooky's entire theory was that scum avoided the wagon like the plague, which is probably true

[Dwlee99]

Like Dwlee knows the point I am making when I said it earlier and then tries to then suggest my own point is bad yet they take the time to suggest why they aren’t shot?

Like that’s hella bad and they know it.

I'm not really sure what point you're talking about. You said that I should be shot by now. I explained why scum haven't shot me. I don't think responding to your point is bad

[Dwlee99]

I don't think we should lim M&M anymore, not yet anyway

Like it’s even more sus they don’t want to elim NumberQ.

They want credit for the elim on Milk but yet don’t sus those who distanced. It’s weird.

I also just didn't remember this post it's from 1000 posts ago wtf

[Dwlee99]

Over 2 weeks ago smh

[Dwlee99]

Tbh MathBlade the idea I should be night killed as town is just so laughable. I've gotten shot... a few times? Maybe? Since May. And a couple of those times are from being a PR or PR telling to get shot so my townreads live.

[MathBlade]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

[Harley Quinn]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

[MathBlade]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

Where’s your fake vote at?

And please excuse my paranoia but why does me being town make you feel better about Meg?

[Dwlee99]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

[MathBlade]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Then what are you doing to solve the game?

[Dwlee99]

Absolutely nothing

[Harley Quinn]

Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.

It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.

Where’s your fake vote at?

And please excuse my paranoia but why does me being town make you feel better about Meg?

I would probably fake vote Looker or Voyc. Oh because she defended Fire but I guess I shouldn’t read too much into that. I thought he was scum.

[Harley Quinn]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Well it makes me feel a bit better that you’re not blindly sheeping dead jester who wasn’t even confident on their reads.

[Looker]

I never voteparked or even ever voted Dwlee, that was my predecessor.

Spoiler: You're right - I can't find it in your ISO, but votecount says it's you (I don't like that)

Harley Quinn replaces DArby

Vote Count 1.04

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


RH9 (4): MegAzumarill, Blood Puppets, datsi, numberQ,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, Three, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, ahhlo,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
Three (1): Milk & Mocha,
Toogeloo (1): Andante,
Harley Quinn (1): marcistar,
Andante (0):
numberQ (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
datsi (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(1): RH9,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-12-24 15:00:00).

I guess this also explains the marcistar vote - they voted for darby

VOTE: darby

I guess it's 50/50 whether there's automatic replacement unvote

When did marci replace out? She never did either one of those things.

That's why I crossed out the replacement part because I was confusing marci with Andante.

What does either Andante replacing out and or her replacement being the nk have anything to do with either me or Dwlee?

Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out.

I think I want to vote out Voyc.

I’m down with either but currently leaning Voyc

These are later in the game than I initially interpreted. I initially interpreted these as you having wanted Voyc out before today.

So I guess that’s my list then Meg, I’m liking Dwlee and Q’s posts the best today. I’ve been tr Meg allgame but her recent posts are making me question that, so that’s currently where I am.

Your points are valid, but I still want Dwlee because you guys haven't eliminated scum all game (so a change in game leadership is required), and Dwlee not replacing makes me think they're scum enjoying a hard-earned victory (especially with the "I'm too incompetent to be NK'd" and "I'm doing absolutely nothing to solve").

Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee). Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest). Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, who

replaced out and then

died. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.

Can confirm Galron also went V/LA in a game I was scum with them in but it was for valid reasons. Not sure how that matters as I don’t see Galron in the active player list or replacement list?

I don't trust players who go V/LA but then post when it's strategically convenient for them. They shield behind "O I was busy - V/LA" when you need them for something, but then pop in to defend themselves. It just seems they get to shirk responsibility and I've seen it exploited before.

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Glad that Mathblade replaced in; I like their posts.

[Looker]

I'm also confused regarding the advantage of no-elimming yesterday, but I'm assuming that's because town collectively distrusted their ability to find scum? The only PR I see is IC and I don't see how that role is benefited by a no-elim (as opposed to a Cop/roleblocker, etc).

[Looker]

Apologies for the sloppiness, but I kinda didn't/don't expect this game to last much longer, so it's kind of minimal investment. Just let me know where to vote and why.

[Dwlee99]

Are you actually saying me not REPLACING OUT is scum indicative?

[MathBlade]

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”

Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.

Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating still

You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend

Then what are you doing to solve the game?

Absolutely nothing

Damn the contradiction is strong with this enby.

@Looker why are you ignoring the Jester wagon after saying you liked my posts? The reason I say this is because your fake vote is off wagon.