Open 843 - Divide & Conquer - Game Over!

[mc esther]

like, if you believed i was town and wanted to hunt within the rest of the wagon, i think that'd make a lot of sense. but if it's me/dunn or inno/std (imo inno/prism is super clear, but i get that you dont believe it, whatever), dont you need that flip?

[Brighter Puppy]

I don't think ur analyzing the Nk at all here either.
Why would Prism kill Kuriyama outside of 'everyone townread kuriyama'
Which btw, big if true. Prism themselves was paranoid of everyone including Kuriyama
I was probably loudest ones saying Kuriyama town. I knew they would likely be nk because A) semi voice of reason, B) townread enough that wasn't gonna get misyeeted
and I think the third reason was C) was Prism pet in game.

Kuriyama wanted to basically just sheep Prism all game. In fact i would think people would say that kill incriminates me here cause she suspected me basically all day, and she acted like a sheep to Prism and would jump through any hoops Prism asked. Why kill ur best sheep if ur Prism? just so people be like "why would Prism do this?" thats if that argument is pushed forward by anyone.

Kuriyama had no doubts on prism as far as I can see. Someone correct me.
Now do I think scum are scarred of either Prism or Kuriyama solves? No. I think in fact scum see Kuriyama as safest kill out me/Prism/Kuriyama because me and Prism are just not working together and are diametrically opposed thus far. (probably will be still today)
Why not kill the third player who might play the mediator (not that kuriyama was but she could have played that role if say all 3 of us stay)

Like say Prism is kiled. Kuriyama was probably going to be directly working with me today.
Say I was killed. Kuriyama would be working with Prism here today.

And a solid two town block that works together is active and is pushing the game forward in a clear direction where no other voices could push against? I think scum def don't want that.

[mc esther]

Why would Prism kill Kuriyama outside of 'everyone townread kuriyama'

why do we need a reason outside of "everyone townread kuriyama". there were literally no consensus townreads aside from -- wait for it -- prism.

[Brighter Puppy]

shouldnt you lim within three-group then? like, isnt dunn very definitely my partner from your perspective? im not trying to poke holes in your theory or anything, im 100% done back-and-forthing on you, youre locktown. it's just that you kinda got stuck tunnelling six-group imo and while that was actually kinda useful in a round-about way (it definitely did expand the discussion to a broader scope than it otherwise wouldve been), it was always incorrect and i think it's largely lost its utility at this point even from your own argument.

How is STD/Dwlee not ur partner. I think its very likely 2 scum on that wagon. I said it had to be at least 1.

[Brighter Puppy]

Why would Prism kill Kuriyama outside of 'everyone townread kuriyama'

why do we need a reason outside of "everyone townread kuriyama". there were literally no consensus townreads aside from -- wait for it -- prism.

if ur saying there was no consensus townreads ur already disagreeing with why Kuriyama was killed....so what is ur explanation for Kuriyama again? besides Prism is scum here.

Because Prism scum again why kill pet town that is sheeping scumPrism.

I don't kill townies as scum who are so fricking wrong they let me do everything i want.

[mc esther]

like, who do you think prism shoots if not kuriyama? sheep are useful but damn lol he's really gonna kill puppy/dwlee/std over her?

std isnt my partner because almost every post ive made about them has been a scumread? i'll admit, not backed up by a vote, so it could be "fake", but he's a much less likely partner than dunn.

fair call on dwlee, i guess dwlee's a vaguely plausible partner for me.

[Brighter Puppy]

Why wouldn't scum kill me if it was Prism?
I am a loud voice in this game and I have been very opposed to Prism.
Hell even killing Dunnstral here as Prism might be smart just for wifom

[Prism]

Glad to see you finally showed up to play lmao

I'm up for water but will be around in the morning.

[mc esther]

i dont think he'd shoot you over kuriyama, like, he needs a late-game miselim and that's the player he said he didnt want to try and read -- he can just townread everyone else and call you poe.

[mc esther]

dunn would be a legit good kill, i'll admit that.

[Brighter Puppy]

late game mislim?
In ur world of Prism is scum theres STD and Dwleee doing jack shit.
U need like 3 mislims as scum or do i need to recount.

[mc esther]

i was going to say "okay, he loses his buddy, who's third", but obviously if he loses his buddy youre clear, so okay i guess youre not his miselim after all. i still flatly dont believe that shooting kuriyama over you clears prism, like, kuriyama is the "no info, she's just obvtown" kill.

[Brighter Puppy]

yeah all prism would need to do given Prism already had a mislim on todoraki is mislim Dwlee then STD
not hard especially given all has to do in ur world can be handed to prism by voting u out and that means only need one of dwlee or std with Innocent dead. Why am i needed in this?

[Brighter Puppy]

I really just want to challenge every analysis and assumption that is coming from Prism.
I hotly just don't believe this nonsense of "kuriyama was obvious kill everyone townread them"
Like was Kuriyama scumread widely? No.
Was she townread by all? No, I don't even think half the game had her as strong town.

This idea came from Prism. Ur continuing it. Which is Fucking strange to me. Cause u scumread Prism.
And u just take their word on this.

I have to go back if u townread Kuriyama or not idr

[mc esther]

im assuming it comes from prism because, from my perspective, prism has to be maf, and you posed me the direct question "well how does nka factor into this". my overall answer is "frankly, it doesnt, she was obvtown to everyone, literally anyone could shoot her, including prism", but okay i'll go check the thread to verify this belief is actually true.

[mc esther]

you also asked specific questions about why he specifically would shoot her, which i answered, albeit, pretty much entirely incorrectly.

[mc esther]

yeah okay, my memory's bad; it was just me, std, inno, and todoroki townreading kuriyama

[Prism]

because, from my perspective, prism has to be maf.

???????????????

At some point I will work through everything but consider working back through it again before I get there.

[mc esther]

uvfgh okay sure, nka complicates this. so, who shoots kuri, in your opinion? because i'll admit, ive suddenly got nothing on that front, like, does std make that shot?

[mc esther]

@prism "has to be" is kinda hyperbole. fmpov it has to be between you, dwlee, and std. i dont think it's dwlee because i dont think they want the three-flip as maf, so it's between you and std. currently i strongly think you.

[mc esther]

does inno make that shot? does dwlee make that shot? ive gotta admit, i wouldve killed her, but ik it's not me.

[Prism]

Day 1 was unfortunately one of the hardest townclaims I have made in my entire life, in probably the worst possible way, but okay, will visit in the morning.

I am glad to see you playing with more fire in any case regardless of alignment.

[Dwlee99]

If I were scum one of the puppies or prism would be very dead right now

[mc esther]

This idea came from Prism. Ur continuing it. Which is Fucking strange to me. Cause u scumread Prism.

not really lol, if prism holds the same mistaken belief which i did, he still has the same motivation to shoot her that i wouldve. prism can be honestly mistaken as maf here.

[Brighter Puppy]

This idea came from Prism. Ur continuing it. Which is Fucking strange to me. Cause u scumread Prism.

not really lol, if prism holds the same mistaken belief which i did, he still has the same motivation to shoot her that i wouldve. prism can be honestly mistaken as maf here.

true but im operating under assumption Prism is town and wrong about everything.