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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:11 pm

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In post 274, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 77, Andresvmb wrote:I have used the same logic to develop a read on Datisi
Coming back on this, OutER said Datisi can't keep his shit together as scum. Can you explain what this means to you more specifically? What are you looking for roughly and how has Datisi's play run counter to that this game?

Not sure I really buy the notion that Datisi can't keep his shit together *checks notes* for less than 10 pages.
I don’t think I said that I had perceived that Datisi was keeping their shit together. I said that they way they were generating a read looked to me like it was coming from Town. I also indicated that the meta on Datisi checked out, in that they act nervous and a bit overly energized as Scum, particularly under pressure (which to start the game they were). I didn’t spend sufficient time trying to figure out whether I was perceiving Datisi as being calm. Does that make sense?
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:13 pm

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In post 599, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 597, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 234, innocentvillager wrote:Also I'm not really caught up nor do I do intend to fully catchup really but I think calling my naked vote bad for the sake of it being a naked vote by itself is bad but I don't have any opinion on who's scummy for that
I was caught up to something like here, but IV actually has posted since. I can take a look myself.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:15 pm

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Just as a side note - I’ll fully catch up and read every last post eventually. I always do. During the week I’m mostly trying to read and stay on top of the game so it doesn’t move completely away from me, but work is heavy lately and it’s just busy.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:17 pm

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In post 601, Andresvmb wrote:I think House is sharp to be totally honest
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Why you buddying me, buddy?

I'm calling you scum, and you're calling me sharp?
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:17 pm

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@Frog I’ll be honest, I think it’s quite worthwhile trying to sort through whether RTP is Town. If you lean positively there, then consider sheeping the slot. I definitely have to put in the work because it’ll give me some confidence that I don’t have to bumble in the dark like an idiot. I also feel like my confidence has taken a hit lately with the way I really ruined an Endgame recently, so I am trying not to push too hard myself.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:18 pm

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In post 603, House wrote:
In post 601, Andresvmb wrote:I think House is sharp to be totally honest
*confbias triggered*

Why you buddying me, buddy?

I'm calling you scum, and you're calling me sharp?
I’m showing respect where it’s due. I have no idea what you’re pushing beyond what Frog summarized for me in like 2 sentences.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:19 pm

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In post 601, Andresvmb wrote:but I do think RTP is a brilliant D1 player. If RTP is Town, then they’re definitely worth listening to here.
And yes I did read this, but 2 of his scumreads are terribad.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:20 pm

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In post 605, Andresvmb wrote:I have no idea what you’re pushing beyond what Frog summarized for me in like 2 sentences.
That's fair. You should ketchup.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:21 pm

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In post 606, House wrote:
In post 601, Andresvmb wrote:but I do think RTP is a brilliant D1 player. If RTP is Town, then they’re definitely worth listening to here.
And yes I did read this, but 2 of his scumreads are terribad.
Which ones?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:23 pm

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In post 608, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 606, House wrote:
In post 601, Andresvmb wrote:but I do think RTP is a brilliant D1 player. If RTP is Town, then they’re definitely worth listening to here.
And yes I did read this, but 2 of his scumreads are terribad.
Which ones?
iv & VP.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:24 pm

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In post 604, Andresvmb wrote:@Frog I’ll be honest, I think it’s quite worthwhile trying to sort through whether RTP is Town. If you lean positively there, then consider sheeping the slot. I definitely have to put in the work because it’ll give me some confidence that I don’t have to bumble in the dark like an idiot. I also feel like my confidence has taken a hit lately with the way I really ruined an Endgame recently, so I am trying not to push too hard myself.
I sorted RTP as scum and then they immediately dropped two town tells while we were posting relatively alone together during the day. If they're as brilliant as you say I could definitely have been played.

It could be paranoia, but I guess it's worth going back to.

I understand what RTP is saying about the Lap part of their solve, but maybe I'm missing something with iv and VP. If RTP is hard to read it might be better to try and reverse engineer their solve and see if it checks out.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:27 pm

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If you detailed exactly what you saw in a different post quote it for me. Otherwise I’ll get to it eventually, or you can expand upon what town tells you saw.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:28 pm

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In post 611, Andresvmb wrote:If you detailed exactly what you saw in a different post quote it for me. Otherwise I’ll get to it eventually, or you can expand upon what town tells you saw.
It would not serve town's interest for me to towncase iv on day 1 when we already have a wagon on scum.

Nothing productive will come off that.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:32 pm

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In post 612, House wrote:
In post 611, Andresvmb wrote:If you detailed exactly what you saw in a different post quote it for me. Otherwise I’ll get to it eventually, or you can expand upon what town tells you saw.
It would not serve town's interest for me to towncase iv on day 1 when we already have a wagon on scum.

Nothing productive will come off that.
That was for Frog. Sorry that wasn’t clear. My main priority is to figure out how I’m leaning on RTP. Frog is basically volunteering to do the work for me.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:33 pm

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@House what wagon are you referring to specifically? I can’t find a recent VC.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:34 pm

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In post 613, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 612, House wrote:
In post 611, Andresvmb wrote:If you detailed exactly what you saw in a different post quote it for me. Otherwise I’ll get to it eventually, or you can expand upon what town tells you saw.
It would not serve town's interest for me to towncase iv on day 1 when we already have a wagon on scum.

Nothing productive will come off that.
That was for Frog. Sorry that wasn’t clear. My main priority is to figure out how I’m leaning on RTP. Frog is basically volunteering to do the work for me.
Oh. Yeah, that would be most helpful.

I'm null as hell on RTP, which concerns me because that's where good scum tends to hang out if they can't find a good town beard.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:35 pm

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In post 614, Andresvmb wrote:@House what wagon are you referring to specifically? I can’t find a recent VC.
A50.

His lack of engagement with the game just reeks of his scum meta. He's active and solvey as town.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:36 pm

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innocentvillager (3):
OutWorldER, Datisi, Aristeia
Almost50 (3):
VP Baltar, House, skitter30
Frogsterking (2):
Andresvmb, Laplacian
Laplacian (2):
Reformed Toxic Player,Frogsterking
Datisi (1):
innocentvillager


Not Voting (2):
Almost50, Something_Smart


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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:39 pm

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In post 617, catboi wrote:
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:43 pm

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VOTE: Laplacian

I’m going to put this down for now.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:43 pm

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Not my first choice, but I'd hammer it.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:46 pm

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In post 464, skitter30 wrote:a50 - nullscum pings but not something i would put super much weight in rn
I would very much appreciate it if you dropped the null part there. :P

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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:46 pm

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In post 621, Almost50 wrote:
In post 464, skitter30 wrote:a50 - nullscum pings but not something i would put super much weight in rn
I would very much appreciate it if you dropped the null part there. :P
Hey look at that, something we can agree on!
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 469, skitter30 wrote:very rough readslist for where i am rn:
In post 0, catboi wrote:Andresvmb ~ townvibes
VP Baltar ~ unsure? had some scumvibes earlier but i do actually like that you're caring enuf abt my alignment to meta me, i think that's unlikely to come from town here
Datisi - town ?
skitter30 - shinign beacon of towniness, etc
OutWorldER - town ?
Reformed Toxic Player - townvibes but i'm not putting super much stock in it
Something_Smart - null
Aristeia - as null as null can possibly be
innocentvillager - scumvibes
Laplacian - i think i remember liking him yetsterday but i don't remember why
Frogsterking - town
House - scumvibes
Almost50 - nullscum
So I'm a candidate for being scum and I'm partners with House? You think if that was the case that we would not be talking to each other like the case is right now?

Hint: If I was paired with House in a scum team in a mini, rest assured the game is won by us already. :lol:

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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:49 pm

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i dont think house is scum with a50 :)

mostly bc.. house is not mafia =3
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