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[MathBlade]

I have trouble with coming up with a scum team that decides to bigbrain shoot RTP in order to frame Baltar rather than just let RTP live and death-tunnel Baltar into the ground

I think we should after VP flips get an idea of why the nightkill happened.

VP needs to get in here and town it up.

Given the setup doesn’t allow for multitasking and that the elim flipped goon we may be in that scenario. Mainly still getting vibes but on paper D1 was almost certainly a bus with at least one buddy on.

[Aristeia]

Skitter said some stuff about S_S being town for reasons she can't express - I don't think she does that if they are S/S together

[MathBlade]

There is something related to this I want to bring up later on D2 actually.

I just looked through your iso for your reads and I saw you had skitter as a nullscum on your reads list, do you want to elaborate on your read of skitter at all?

PEdit: Okay it sounds like this is more along the lines of what you expect from town!Math.

no my read on the slot is based on how I believe A50 plays

Mathblade is a much stronger scum player than A50.

I think skitter's iso leans more towards scum than not, it felt somewhat strange for her to not have concrete thoughts about how the d1 elim went.

I have been wondering if skitter's play in this game is typical of her town game.

PEdit:

My best guess was that it was optimistic and the scum team felt pressure from RTP and maybe convinced themselves RTP was also the pr.

IDK could you see S_S and skitter deciding to do it?

RTP said they might FoS skitter if Lap was scum and a50 was town.

You seen pretty resistant to considering VP Baltar as scum.

No fair idea stealer!

[Aristeia]

You seen pretty resistant to considering VP Baltar as scum.

I think Frog has made it pretty clear he is fine with hammering VPB he just doesn't want to end the day early

[Aristeia]

I mean I don't really want the day to end early either I'd rather flirt more with Datisi and complacency is poison sometimes

[MathBlade]

Nom nom nom good cookies. Don’t mind me I am the Cookie Monster.

[House]

You seen pretty resistant to considering VP Baltar as scum.

I think Frog has made it pretty clear he is fine with hammering VPB he just doesn't want to end the day early

Yet he's fishing for 2 other scum instead of 1.

Actions speak louder than words.

[Aristeia]

I would be incredibly impressed if Frogster was mafia here. I don't see how he endgames as it would be weird for him to be alive anywhere near the end.

[House]

I would be incredibly impressed if Frogster was mafia here. I don't see how he endgames as it would be weird for him to be alive anywhere near the end.

I'm not calling him Mafia. I'm scolding him for being an obstacle to a scum flip.

[Frogsterking]

RTP actively giving scum!skitter reasons to get paranoid:

Spoiler:

Your vp Townsend sucks

Why is lap town skitter

When have I ever aggressively pushed anyone this hard as scum on d1

i don't even think i should be townread here fwiw >.>

btw i think

if a50 flips town

skitter is massively sus for trying to defend lap in the way they are


its like active discouragement of a wagon you supposedly dont care about


but also ive seen skitter have a game where they were way off (chain of command) so wee

i agree that we're probably approaching the game from different povs
i guess i don't have the town-lap reference point to compare against, i'm just working off of what i see here

if you could talk to me about your vp scumread, i would appreciate it
also why am i getting townread by you?

actually awkward that you ask because im actually losing my townread on you the more you talk but a50 scum flip will completely shut me up and im ok with that wagon existing side by side with lap wagon

All in between of RTP loudly declaring skitter to be town.

Maybe it seems like more of a threat from scum!skitter pov.

Ari do you know if scum!skitter uses lines like "i dont think i should be townread" and "im having a hard time getting into this game" ?

PEdit: Funny you both say that, I was just considering putting VP at e-1 and seeing if Math hammered or anyone jumped in to unvote.

[VP Baltar]

I am at the bar and not reading the thread tonight. In case it wasn't clear, Mathblade is confirmed town. Also, we are not yeeting me today.

[VP Baltar]

Ari and datisi are the most likely candidates for scum.

[House]

Ari and datisi are the most likely candidates for scum.

I can't wait to see these cases.

[Frogsterking]

Ari and datisi are the most likely candidates for scum.

I'll put you at e-1 if you don't case it now.

[MathBlade]

I am at the bar and not reading the thread tonight. In case it wasn't clear, Mathblade is confirmed town. Also, we are not yeeting me today.

100% not going there. I get why you think so, but we aren’t going there and will explain post game.
Enjoy your drinks, but I think we need something to not yeet you.

[MathBlade]

Ari and datisi are the most likely candidates for scum.

I'll put you at e-1 if you don't case it now.

And then you die because you never ever stop scum spew so if VP is town or scum never cut off discussion

[House]

UNVOTE:

[Aristeia]

I would be incredibly impressed if Frogster was mafia here. I don't see how he endgames as it would be weird for him to be alive anywhere near the end.

I'm not calling him Mafia. I'm scolding him for being an obstacle to a scum flip.

I don't think he's being an obstacle to a scum flip - he just wants to take his time and that's important in games that seem

too easy

[MathBlade]

I would be incredibly impressed if Frogster was mafia here. I don't see how he endgames as it would be weird for him to be alive anywhere near the end.

I'm not calling him Mafia. I'm scolding him for being an obstacle to a scum flip.

I don't think he's being an obstacle to a scum flip - he just wants to take his time and that's important in games that seem

too easy

Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk

[House]

So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

Stay tuned!

[Frogsterking]

VP talk to me i think u could be town xD
I want to hear ur case on daisy and ari

is there any reason u cant answer my question about ur read progression??

by the way the hell is this read progression on a50, VP?
EoD1:

is "this" a50 or lap

2 for 1!

If I die tonight, yeet a50 into the sun.

I enjoy that a50 posted and did his best to say nothing concrete about Lap and the wagon on him.

VOTE: Laplacian

Day Over

Definitely think this flips scum now

________________
Day 2:

I'm going to go to the bar, but food for thought: I don't think Lap's wagon was pure and A50 wasn't the scum on it.

I'm going to go to the bar, but food for thought: I don't think Lap's wagon was pure and A50 wasn't the scum on it.

Looking at the OP it says the mafia was a goon so probably in the front half and planned bus would be where I would start.

Yeah, I am considering datisi might be a scum fuck here.

Did you mean to include the double negative so you

don't

think a50

wasn't

the scum on the lap wagon, meaning a50 is a scum and you're looking at Datisi as a potential third?

if u can't answer i will drop it no mean to pressure

[Aristeia]

Ari do you know if scum!skitter uses lines like "i dont think i should be townread" and "im having a hard time getting into this game" ?

I don't think she has issues with that at all - it's fairly trivial for her to fake.

The most town indicative areas of skitter's ISO are that she's throwing townreads/pings to people that ideally would be mislim targets in this pl for her and keeping people like me/datisi at null when she should know we are very difficult to mislim.

The most scum indicative areas for skitter are that she doesn't really have a concrete opinion about Lapla as he's going down the tubes - I feel it's generally more difficult for her to find her footing in a game that's moving quickly.

I'm somewhat conflicted about the read in general but I don't think it's a priority to nail down today - we have some breathing room.

[House]

if u can't answer i will drop it no mean to pressure

[MathBlade]

So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

Stay tuned!

Nope. I think I get the vibe. I don’t think this is worth getting into now. If you townread me, trust me enough to say let’s not poke this and pretend we did.

[Aristeia]

Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk

How familiar are you with VPB scum?