open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Alyssa The Lamb]

What do you think of everybody's entrances this day phase

[Kaiji]

last time catboi and i were tvt they grossly misread me and mislimmed me bc i was aggressively scumreading them and tunneled them rofl.

so imagine going to them for tips.

[Kaiji]

I genuinely havent really read much yet alyssa, like i said im looking elsewhere atm.

[skitter30]

last time catboi and i were tvt they grossly misread me and mislimmed me bc i was aggressively scumreading them and tunneled them rofl.

so imagine going to them for tips.

I mean hey you didnt say 'does anybody except catboi have pointers'

Also yeah i think its odd that that's what you chose to comment on amongst everything else

Also, like, you're aware that trying to move the wagon away from enchant is p darn bad looking if he's scum, no? Why am i scum setting you up for a misflip and not town who thinks you look partnered?

[Kaiji]

Trying to not get caught up in an emotional 1v1 because thats how i can easily lose town the game.

i'd like time to discuss.
(the following is not meant for me to look towny its me worried people will instant vote me)
i'd like people to not vote when we are in limlo and let me vote first so 1 of 2 things will happen:

1) i vote wrong. scum blitz my vote. we lose. yall can blame me gg
2) I vote correctly. We can have a discussion. Hopefully i can convince you all.




I implore people to query my thought processes across the game. I will be able to answer things honestly and in detail. Datisi of all people should know I can do this as town in limlo even if i just replaced in.

[skitter30]

Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)

we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug

Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world

very much agreed

Is dats partnered?

[Kaiji]

Why is it odd?

[Kaiji]

Skitter - Do you think being wrong means someone is scum?

Is that how you judge games typically?

[Kaiji]

Please be detailed and critical in your responses.

[skitter30]

We have a 1v1 and you were defending half of it yesterday

Why are you jumping to 'i am imminently getting flipped and skitter is trying to misflip me'

Instead of like commenting on the mare/enchant situation

[Enchant]

Just walk catboi iso and you notice interactions between him and Mare.

I need to sleep, try to not kill me before i can post again.

[Kaiji]

There were several people who decided not to even vote and not take a stand - I was simply vocal about my own opinion.

I think IMO this is townier than not here. but I'm biased.

I have lots of questions for skitter but I think I'll let it wait for limlo.

[Kaiji]

We have a 1v1 and you were defending half of it yesterday

Why are you jumping to 'i am imminently getting flipped and skitter is trying to misflip me'

Instead of like commenting on the mare/enchant situation

Why are you asking this question?

[skitter30]

Skitter - Do you think being wrong means someone is scum?

Is that how you judge games typically?

I mean if being wrong means that you spent the day before elo trying to defend scum caught in a bad fakeclaim, yes

Why should i think you were wrong-town and not partners ?

The latter i think is strawman-y and i'm not going to answer

I really should go to sleep, so if u want a more detailed answer, tomorrow

Pedit also i'll get to those tom

[Kaiji]

Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world

Skitter - if you're going to openwolf against me at least don't make it easy for me to expose things.

I am a very heavy gamestate analysis player - I can tell who is taking what stances usually.


I can always pull up the receipts here because I am town.

[Kaiji]

I'm not informed of who the scumteam is so unfortunately if I am reaching the wrong conclusion I do not have a cheatsheet to help me Skitter. So what about my approach seemed TMI to you?

I will be going through the second question in detail during limlo.

[Kaiji]

Catboi if you're not doing some batshit crazy gambit with enchant, I apologize for the read flip.

I do want to say I would never have mena guilty you there as I was townreading you.

You'll prob write that off as WIFOM but it is true.

[Kaiji]

Is anyone around to discuss?

Primarily looking at Catboi / Alyssa as they are likely nightkills.

[Kaiji]

U mean kill enchant and eat the flip?

Fwiw i'm like >90% voting enchant i just want to get the mechanical formalities out of the way

Yeah there is zero chance I would leave him alive to potentially get another guilty

btw this is exactly something I agree with ^

[Kaiji]

If i'm scum here I kill catboi for reasons that catboi might understand before andante.

i do not hold false hope that i could help a scum partner enchant win a cc after tracker dies and neighborizer guilties him.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Hi I'll be around soon

I still think you should look at entrances today

[Kaiji]

meh

idk how to prove im town other than like things that happened that are impossible in scum me world but no one knows that because they dont know me well enough like that hh except maybe like datisi

please ask me questions about progressions stuff ty

even ask me about NSG i will try to explain what her thought process was IMO from my pov of being in the same one.


as in i can give a viable thought process that shows X can come from town and such.


for me mafia is about eliminating the NAI stuff that is likely to come from either side and see what you are left with and judge then.

and then, moreso finding who is town.


If you're town and you want to win -> solving me correctly will carry the game.

[Kaiji]

Hi I'll be around soon

I still think you should look at entrances today

sure. i am less busy with other thing now so i will.

any in particular you cared for?

[Kaiji]

i feel like there will be like 1 person showing signs of trusting me and then mafia will like kill them and i get lolwagoned tomorrow by a townie

but with this PL i feel that isnt *as* likely.

btw agreement to not vote for the first 5 IRL days of the phase in limlo day btw, ok?

except for the initial vote.

[Kaiji]

I'd like limlo to go like this:

I vote someone.

We see if scum blitz, if not, theyre voting me back likely at that point


and then we discuss