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[Frogsterking]

when i look at ur scum range will i find examples of u faking optimism?

Take a look at my scum games.

Only the ones from 2021 count. My meta has shifted drastically since 2016.

im afraid to im afraid i wont be able to find anyway to read u.

Bullshit.

My town & scum games are ridiculously different.

u sound pretty confident

[House]

when i look at ur scum range will i find examples of u faking optimism?

Take a look at my scum games.

Only the ones from 2021 count. My meta has shifted drastically since 2016.

im afraid to im afraid i wont be able to find anyway to read u.

Bullshit.

My town & scum games are ridiculously different.

u sound pretty confident

Who knows me better than I do?

[MathBlade]

when i look at ur scum range will i find examples of u faking optimism?

i can't remember a time i showed optimism as either alignment

most of the time, i think the game shouldn't be given up on, but outright optimism no

Town you was pretty optimistic when there was a broken setup by like d3 that one game

Man that was a hilarious setup looking back

Not mafia no killed lmao

[Aristeia]

House is very far outside of his scum range.

I still don't think IV is cleared

[Datisi]

She was quick hammered but not by me.

this is icky because i don't think it's rocket surgery on how putting someone at y-1 so quickly and with loose cannons present in the game basically is quickhammering, and the fact that math is trying to nitpick details here is >_>

[Datisi]

there was a broken setup by like d3 that one game

cool, give me a broken setup and i'll be optimistic

[Aristeia]

Everything Mathblade has said makes my skin crawl but I also don't want to vote for someone who might actually be a mech-clear

[Aristeia]

I want to hear more from Andres / IV.

I want Frogster/Mathblade to stop foaming at the mouth to end this day as fast as possible.

[Aristeia]

good luck on your exam Dats

[Datisi]

Apparently we’re doing this silly mass claim crap

I imagine you’re going to claim VT and this is even more silly.

We are massclaiming? Isn’t it a bit early?

Start backwards

And btw I am 90% sure there’s a roleblocker because reasonsz

So hence why I am insistent

My straight as an arrow was a crumb to Datisi

Because barring a mod error I didn’t get the fruit

So SS + Datisi is actually more than a paranoid theory I have

why are you sure that there's a roleblocker and how does xou not receiving the fruit mean ANYTHING

[MathBlade]

I want to hear more from Andres / IV.

I want Frogster/Mathblade to stop foaming at the mouth to end this day as fast as possible.

I actually am not.
I said I want the people who can actually be scum duke it out.

VOTE: Unvote

To be clear

And good luck Dats.

I have RL and stuff tomorrow so will be quieter than usual

[MathBlade]

Apparently we’re doing this silly mass claim crap

I imagine you’re going to claim VT and this is even more silly.

We are massclaiming? Isn’t it a bit early?

Start backwards

And btw I am 90% sure there’s a roleblocker because reasonsz

So hence why I am insistent

My straight as an arrow was a crumb to Datisi

Because barring a mod error I didn’t get the fruit

So SS + Datisi is actually more than a paranoid theory I have

why are you sure that there's a roleblocker and how does xou not receiving the fruit mean ANYTHING

I did a derp and forgot/misremembered the disloyal mod on VP. So I was like what was VP oh yeah Fruit vendor where’s my fruit but I forgot the modifier

[House]

I have RL and stuff tomorrow so will be quieter than usual

Good, now's my chance to rally a lim on you.

[Datisi]

thanks for the exam wishes, peeps

math is icky for pretending to be cleared town based on that claim, the "this flipped town had shit reads and deserved to die" is something i often use as scum to justify a yeet after the fact

the posts towards ari are also icky

assuming no other claims, i'm thinking both s_s and iv are town

gotta run, cheers

[Frogsterking]

Random question Frog is your first language (native language) English?

lol u r insulting me?!?

[House]

gotta run, cheers

Crush it!

[Frogsterking]

Good luck on the exam

[MathBlade]

Random question Frog is your first language (native language) English?

lol u r insulting me?!?

No
Native speakers use different words than non native or younger speakers.
Word choice is a part of how I read people
I actually am trying to learn more languages

[Datisi]

okay, so. assuming s_s and iv are telling the truth, and i don't think this town has enough power without them, we have

weak disloyal fruit vendor
even-night gunsmith
??? vigilante (couldn't shoot n1)

i *could* see this being it for town. now, obviously i know this cannot be it for town, but.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12681742 - this is the one setup i know of that isis designed. i don't know how much it helps me.

anyway, assuming nobody here is a protective or a blocking role or whatever fakeclaiming (for the love of fuck, do not do this), i think math should(??) be legit here. i don't think this level of town power lets scum have a blocking role. i have Thoughts about giving town a backup vig in the one and only case where a vig gets yeeted on day 1, because i think that should bring a punishment for town, because if you wanted to have a fking gunsmith miller in the game, why not make it a backup rolecop or something stupid like that, but whatever.

the bad news is that this means that pretty much all of my reads have to go straight into the trash.

s_s, you said how house once pocketed you with something like this, mind telling me what happened and how that compares to now?

[Datisi]

Town!Dats: "i have no idea. my best guess is that t3 went the designated deepwolf route,

plopped a bus vote down then did nothing to push it,

but also did nothing to go against it should rce get yeeted."

Looking forward to hearing more from Town!Dats.

oh, only now rereading i get what this was trying to say

yeah, that was yelo, where scum needs only one (1) incorrect vote to win the game. so they can afford one of theirs slacking off, doing nothing while lazily bussing, while the two others hope to sway one townie wrong. it's not comparable to day 1, where scum has no ability to instantly win the game if one town votes wrong. nice try, though.

[Datisi]

i actually hate math's posts so much that i am trying to think of any possible combination of someone fakeclaiming vt or wondering if math can be ascetic or some nonsense like that

but i also know baltar will rip my head clean off in post-game if i yeet a person he had a clear on and they flip green

decisions, decisions

i'm not a fan of frogs doing the low jabs he's doing but i don't think it makes him scum

andres is probably the first place i would look at because he's the least townie of the vt claims, but i would be very much lying if i said i actually think he's red

i'm also wondering if there's a positive in s_s claiming what vig exactly he is so that we know whether to plan around his vig shot tonight

[Datisi]

weak disloyal fruit vendor
??? vigilante (couldn't shoot n1)
n1 backup vig

vs

something that managed to figure out s_s is the vig

this looks like a travesty, like surely not

in a perfect world, what
vp gets a clear, then dies on a guilty
n2 s_s shoots someone, so that's town kind of but not really getting an extra yeet?
uhh

god i fucking hate this game

[Aristeia]

i actually hate math's posts so much that i am trying to think of any possible combination of someone fakeclaiming vt or wondering if math can be ascetic or some nonsense like that

same.

I think if we want to mail it home based on a mech~clear for MB/IV/SS.

I'd bet on Datisi/House being both town and just going for that win.

[Datisi]

if it actually turns out to be andres+frogster, i am going to feel HELLA stupid for that towncase i made on both of them

you think that team makes sense?

[Frogsterking]

How different is this Math from Town!Math?