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[House]

Frogster I do want to know why you decided to try to quick-lim IV before he got a chance to post today.

ADHD and general anxiety disorder. The anxiety creates an illusion of urgency and the ADHD fosters it with impulsivity. It's NAI.

It's difficult to stop, but it can be done, especially now that I did it twice and I know it's a pattern, and I don't want to do it again.

I can relate to this. I get swept up in quicklims over similar shit.

[House]

It's late. G'night, all.

[Aristeia]

G'night House.

[Frogsterking]

Frogster I do want to know why you decided to try to quick-lim IV before he got a chance to post today.

ADHD and general anxiety disorder. The anxiety creates an illusion of urgency and the ADHD fosters it with impulsivity. It's NAI.

It's difficult to stop, but it can be done, especially now that I did it twice and I know it's a pattern, and I don't want to do it again.

Do you have any examples of completed town games where you pull of multiple quick hammers in a row on townside players?

It is difficult for me to take this at face value when the underlying behavior is extremely ++scum ev.

One shot dayvig on D1 yes potentially

[Frogsterking]

Frogster I do want to know why you decided to try to quick-lim IV before he got a chance to post today.

ADHD and general anxiety disorder. The anxiety creates an illusion of urgency and the ADHD fosters it with impulsivity. It's NAI.

It's difficult to stop, but it can be done, especially now that I did it twice and I know it's a pattern, and I don't want to do it again.

Do you have any examples of completed town games where you pull of multiple quick hammers in a row on townside players?

It is difficult for me to take this at face value when the underlying behavior is extremely ++scum ev.

One shot dayvig on D1 yes potentially

Actually wait yes I did do this same thing with e-1 in a completed town game here as tracker LOL

[Frogsterking]

Frogster I do want to know why you decided to try to quick-lim IV before he got a chance to post today.

ADHD and general anxiety disorder. The anxiety creates an illusion of urgency and the ADHD fosters it with impulsivity. It's NAI.

It's difficult to stop, but it can be done, especially now that I did it twice and I know it's a pattern, and I don't want to do it again.

Do you have any examples of completed town games where you pull of multiple quick hammers in a row on townside players?

It is difficult for me to take this at face value when the underlying behavior is extremely ++scum ev.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1050

In this game.

I just remembered too when I put IV at e-1 in this game I was expecting SS to unvote and I thought SS was town but I wasn't sure yet and I wanted to see what they would do. I also scumread IV at the time.

[Frogsterking]

Frogster I do want to know why you decided to try to quick-lim IV before he got a chance to post today.

ADHD and general anxiety disorder. The anxiety creates an illusion of urgency and the ADHD fosters it with impulsivity. It's NAI.

It's difficult to stop, but it can be done, especially now that I did it twice and I know it's a pattern, and I don't want to do it again.

Do you have any examples of completed town games where you pull of multiple quick hammers in a row on townside players?

It is difficult for me to take this at face value when the underlying behavior is extremely ++scum ev.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1050

In this game.

I just remembered too when I put IV at e-1 in this game I was expecting SS to unvote and I thought SS was town but I wasn't sure yet and I wanted to see what they would do. I also scumread IV at the time.

In the game I linked, it was during limlo even that I put at least one townside player at e-1, multiple times. In one case I did it to clear them as a scumteam with another player who was posting. I don't remember the other reasons.

[Aristeia]

I skimmed the VCs for the linked game and I don't see you quick-hammering any town players - the only hammer vote you cast during the game is on a mafia player.

[Aristeia]

In the game I linked, it was during limlo even that I put at least one townside player at e-1, multiple times. In one case I did it to clear them as a scumteam with another player who was posting. I don't remember the other reasons.

This is completely different from quickhammering a town player and then trying to quick-lim another player before he gets a chance to vote.

I guess you do have a point in that it shows you are incredibly impulsive and willing to make plays that are just not very good for townside in terms of benefiting town.

[Frogsterking]

I skimmed the VCs for the linked game and I don't see you quick-hammering any town players - the only hammer vote you cast during the game is on a mafia player.

I mean obviously my hope for this game was to hammer mafia as well?

The moderator of the game I linked to you said that what I was doing was risky. I will find them saying that.

[Aristeia]

ok um have you quickhammered anyone before as town? doesn't have to be scum I just want to see how you approached it.

[Frogsterking]

I skimmed the VCs for the linked game and I don't see you quick-hammering any town players - the only hammer vote you cast during the game is on a mafia player.

In the game I linked, it was during limlo even that I put at least one townside player at e-1, multiple times. In one case I did it to clear them as a scumteam with another player who was posting. I don't remember the other reasons.

This is completely different from quickhammering a town player and then trying to quick-lim another player before he gets a chance to vote.

I guess you do have a point in that it shows you are incredibly impulsive and willing to make plays that are just not very good for townside in terms of benefiting town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0&start=75

This is what I was looking for, on page 4.

IDK about any quick hammers specifically then, I'm not sure if I had many opportunities, but I'll check I guess.

[Frogsterking]

Huh that's sad I just realized EM is gone

[Frogsterking]

This is the closest I can find to a "quickhammer" on town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p3351243

The votecount at 632.

[Aristeia]

This is the closest I can find to a "quickhammer" on town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p3351243

The votecount at 632.

...

the day started on Jul 28th and you hammered on Aug 16th, two days before deadline after Inhimshallibe posted final words and other people said it was ok to hammer.

That's not a quick hammer at all. I want to stop tunneling on you I am going to read other things after work.

[Datisi]

@House I thought Ari was town until she has no qualms about joining from her point of view what is highly likely to be an impure wagon.

can you walk me through how/why you came to this conclusion?

[Datisi]

I just remembered too when I put IV at e-1 in this game I was expecting SS to unvote and I thought SS was town but I wasn't sure yet and I wanted to see what they would do. I also scumread IV at the time.

were you also taking into account how i had said that i will be hammering iv and how i was online at the time and posting?

[Frogsterking]

@House I thought Ari was town until she has no qualms about joining from her point of view what is highly likely to be an impure wagon.

can you walk me through how/why you came to this conclusion?

Sure thing, what I can remember off the top of my head:

#1 andres fos me and I thought he was pretty aggro and I assumed he was scum

#2 clears outted, mech and setup spec completed

#3 Now andres is not in the clears group so I'm pretty sure he's scum

#4 Something I can't remember happens, I accuse Datisi of being scum

#5 Datisi votes me and then I feel pretty sure he's last scum

#6 Ari says she would vote me, and I start to wonder, maybe she is the last scum after all

PEdit: I think I was aware and I'm not sure to what extent, i think i was mostly curious about the relationship between SS and IV slots.

[Datisi]

i am puzzled on why frogster is assuming that both (1) scum have a roleblocker and (2) there's no way that mathblade is mafia, when all it would require is roleblocking the person that basically claimed power role shortly before d1 ended

okay, do you mind answering this?

[Something_Smart]

the person that basically claimed power role shortly before d1 ended

When did that happen?

[Datisi]

the person that basically claimed power role shortly before d1 ended

When did that happen?

the "if i die, yeet a50". it made no sense at the time because there were so many people townier than he was, plus the masons claim. i don't think it's very out there to say that scum could've seen that as a soft.

[MathBlade]

it's kind of annoying that the person who cannot read me for shit is the vig but it is what it is, not sure yet if i wanna spend time arguing there as i'm not sure i can solve this game if math isn't scum

frogster, who do you wanna kill today as opposed to writing out essays of mafia theory?

Wtf dude? It’s shit like this that makes me scumread you.

There’s no way from a town you angle that SS is scum.

Scum cannot have the vig modifier in normals.
Two deaths means a vig exists or you’re scum.

SS is an uncountered vig.

[MathBlade]

You see that I prefer you to Andres, you see Mathblade pushing me to vote for you and saying he wants to kill you as well, so I don't see why your thoughts would be to try to get me to think Andres isn't bussing you instead of trying to make me think you are town and Andres is scum and the second scum is Datisi.

I am pushing you to vote somewhere in the PoE this is misrep.

My preference is Frogger is more likely scum than Andres but I will take anyone in the pool.

I don’t think both Frogger and Andres are scum (and if they are I will be happily surprised).

I don’t think House/Ari/Datisi is pure because of the resistance to look where scum have to be and no one (up to where I have read) has used D1 in their arguments.

I just wish I knew what scum wanted buried.

[Datisi]

it's kind of annoying that the person who cannot read me for shit is the vig but it is what it is, not sure yet if i wanna spend time arguing there as i'm not sure i can solve this game if math isn't scum

frogster, who do you wanna kill today as opposed to writing out essays of mafia theory?

Wtf dude? It’s shit like this that makes me scumread you.

There’s no way from a town you angle that SS is scum.

Scum cannot have the vig modifier in normals.
Two deaths means a vig exists or you’re scum.

SS is an uncountered vig.

???????????

which part of "it sucks that a person who cannot read me is the vigilante" reads as "i think the vigilante is fakeclaiming"

[MathBlade]

Not sure I want to spend time arguing there => arguing SS scum