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Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:56 pm

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In post 3274, House wrote:Like I said, anything for damage control on your precious* lim pool.

That's scum play, maintaining as many lim candidates as possible.
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Post Post #3276 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:56 pm

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I'd prefer Datisi to House so I don't see the point of doing this towncasing thing
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Post Post #3277 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:56 pm

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In post 3276, Aristeia wrote:I'd prefer Datisi to House so I don't see the point of doing this towncasing thing
You misspelled MathBlade.

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Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:56 pm

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In post 3272, Datisi wrote:read to the bottom of pg 129, finding it weird how frogs suddenly seems much more angry that things aren't going his way than explaining why they should be. like, i still don't see why he townreads everyone except me/andres so hard or whatever. granted maybe he doesn't care about explaining things *to me* but there's a weird lack of cases/data in his convincing of others, that was present in early game

anyway, gotta run, if frogs dropped some cool cases in the last 2 pages, ignore this post
Nah he hasn’t.

To catch you up Frogger is the likely elim.

House hopped off Frogger to Andres earlier.

So I think House Frogger or Ari Frogger

House Frogger more likely as Andres susses House
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Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:58 pm

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Keep up the impotent shade.

When I changed my vote Frog wagon wasn't even a thing.

People were too busy being cowards.
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Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:58 pm

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Like you are right now.
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Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:58 pm

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In post 3276, Aristeia wrote:I'd prefer Datisi to House so I don't see the point of doing this towncasing thing
I am using you to validate my House read.

The overwhelming thread vibes was both together. I don’t think that is likely given how people have responded to my Frogger push

Those who think it is must townread House or Datisi so I can find the town of you and figure out my paranoia
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Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:58 pm

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if we're killing 4/5 I'm fine leaving Datisi as the lone survivor
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Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:59 pm

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In post 3258, Aristeia wrote:um so what is it?
I forgot that there were modifiers so I thought scum team was going to lose unless one of them was a role blocker and they were both alive, because SS would shoot correctly within the VT claims or IV would guilty/clear a VT claim. I was focusing completely on what all they would need to have happen in addition to having a role blocker because in other situations I believed they were going to lose anyway, not because I actually know if there is a role blocker.

The idea that I posted all that because I have TMI is stupid, in a situation like this where I am scum and I know that we have a role blocker, I'm not trying to draw town's attention to this possibility, and I'm posting my analysis into the scum PT instead of the main game thread.
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Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:00 pm

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If I had stayed in Frog so day, Math would be claiming I am bussing.

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Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:00 pm

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In post 3284, House wrote:If I had stayed on* Frog all* day, Math would be claiming I am bussing.

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Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:01 pm

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In post 3282, Aristeia wrote:if we're killing 4/5 I'm fine leaving Datisi as the lone survivor
That’s kinda where I am at barring a weird scum kill like IV.

SS should be the kill here over IV esp if Frogger is scum as scum can’t risk losing the game the next day even if they get a miselim

If IV dies I would be shocked since he claimed even night
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Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:01 pm

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I mostly townread House off his d1 play, his aggression and meta-divergence from his scum games.

If we're in a Frog-scum/Andres-Town would, house looks much much worse by the way he is trying to push andres death and seeming to not really care about Frogger as much.

Regardless of that if I'm making a choice between Datisi/House I think I choose Datisi every time to be town.
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Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:02 pm

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In post 3284, House wrote:If I had stayed in Frog so day, Math would be claiming I am bussing.

His agenda is transparent.
In post 3285, House wrote:
In post 3284, House wrote:If I had stayed on* Frog all* day, Math would be claiming I am bussing.

His agenda is transparent.
I agree he would likely do this, and my worst fear isn't even that Math is scum, it's that Math is town, and his reads are so bad that unless we hit correctly today scum will leave him alive and town will lose.
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Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:02 pm

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i think what house is yelling about his own meta is townie

if what he's saying is true (i'm assuming it is for now but i have not checked), then him being scum this game would mean that there was some rapid scum improvement. which isn't, like, *impossible*, but it's probably unlikely enough that everything else should be considered first

and that's not even talking about shutting down a counterwagon of lapla and etc
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Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:02 pm

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If it's Frog-Town/Andres-Scum I'd have to really think about who to pick between Datisi/House but I just think Frogger looks really scummy rn.
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Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:03 pm

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In post 3286, MathBlade wrote:That’s kinda where I am at barring a weird scum kill like IV.
This is bullshit.

IV is the only scum kill that makes sense.

S_S is no threat to them, and IV can guilty them.

Weird kill? Bullshit.
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Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:03 pm

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In post 3287, Aristeia wrote:I mostly townread House off his d1 play, his aggression and meta-divergence from his scum games.

If we're in a Frog-scum/Andres-Town would, house looks much much worse by the way he is trying to push andres death and seeming to not really care about Frogger as much.

Regardless of that if I'm making a choice between Datisi/House I think I choose Datisi every time to be town.
I agree on this and it’s more sorting House and you.

I am leaning House but your D2 was really bad to me.

I would want Datisi to be the decision maker of you three I agree.
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Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:04 pm

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In post 3287, Aristeia wrote:I mostly townread House off his d1 play, his aggression and meta-divergence from his scum games.

If we're in a Frog-scum/Andres-Town would, house looks much much worse by the way he is trying to push andres death and seeming to not really care about Frogger as much.

Regardless of that if I'm making a choice between Datisi/House I think I choose Datisi every time to be town.
I would too, but that's just because I trust him more to find Math's partner if frog is town.
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Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:04 pm

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In post 3292, MathBlade wrote:I would want Datisi to be the decision maker
i don't even know what the context is but this is generally a horrible idea
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Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:04 pm

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I don't see what's the point of making the choice if we all agree Datisi is townie
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Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:05 pm

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In post 3291, House wrote:
In post 3286, MathBlade wrote:That’s kinda where I am at barring a weird scum kill like IV.
This is bullshit.

IV is the only scum kill that makes sense.

S_S is no threat to them, and IV can guilty them.

Weird kill? Bullshit.
IV is even night so can’t act as it’s D3
Leaving SS alive means that if we assume worse case Frogger town and next elim town scum can still lose if they don’t have a roleblocker.

SS should 100% die here.
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Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:05 pm

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So the only way Math can be scum on a mechanical level is if VP was role blocked then night he visited Math?
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Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:07 pm

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In post 3296, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3291, House wrote:
In post 3286, MathBlade wrote:That’s kinda where I am at barring a weird scum kill like IV.
This is bullshit.

IV is the only scum kill that makes sense.

S_S is no threat to them, and IV can guilty them.

Weird kill? Bullshit.
IV is even night so can’t act as it’s D3
Leaving SS alive means that if we assume worse case Frogger town and next elim town scum can still lose if they don’t have a roleblocker.

SS should 100% die here.
Stupid question.

Why would a town gunsmith claim an even night modifier?

Isn't there more EV in WIFOMing scum, letting them think he can act every night?
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Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:08 pm

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I don't think I've seen Math say a single thing which benefits Town over the last couple of pages and I don't know if he just has really bad reads right now or got cleared on accident.
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