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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:39 pm

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In post 4148, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4144, MathBlade wrote:It means House is scum or scum don’t want to scumread him.
well at least one town player is townreading house as well

if house is mafia then two townplayers are townreading house.

wouldn't it just be more likely that house happens to be the most townread in the poe4 because he happens to be town?
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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:40 pm

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if we all think house is town

and 2 scum are in a poe3

do you really think the 2 scum are going to be pushing at the townie in the poe3?
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:40 pm

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The system only works for concluding who scum want to push and who they don’t.

They want to push Dats and Andres making them less likely to be scum.
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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:41 pm

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In post 4151, Aristeia wrote:if we all think house is town

and 2 scum are in a poe3

do you really think the 2 scum are going to be pushing at the townie in the poe3?
At least one would.

They’d have “reevaluated”.
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:41 pm

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your system is basically taking a poe3 that's exactly symmetrical and then concluding that I'm mech-scum because House townreads me.
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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 pm

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In post 4154, Aristeia wrote:your system is basically taking a poe3 that's exactly symmetrical and then concluding that I'm mech-scum because House townreads me.
You keep stating this repeatedly and it’s been addressed. I don’t see what saying the same thing in the same way achieves.
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 pm

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In post 4146, MathBlade wrote:Maybe you and House if he keeps trying to save you from me actually explaining my read on you.
One of these days, you're going to learn I don't give a rat's ass about your threats.

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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:43 pm

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There is a lot more to it that I am quite frankly too tired to explain.

I would rather case you
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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:43 pm

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In post 4155, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4154, Aristeia wrote:your system is basically taking a poe3 that's exactly symmetrical and then concluding that I'm mech-scum because House townreads me.
You keep stating this repeatedly and it’s been addressed. I don’t see what saying the same thing in the same way achieves.
I am trying to show you that your system is flawed by pointing out how the inputs are working.
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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:44 pm

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In post 4157, MathBlade wrote:There is a lot more to it that I am quite frankly too tired to explain.

I would rather case you

Do you want me to respond to your case ?
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:44 pm

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In post 4158, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4155, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4154, Aristeia wrote:your system is basically taking a poe3 that's exactly symmetrical and then concluding that I'm mech-scum because House townreads me.
You keep stating this repeatedly and it’s been addressed. I don’t see what saying the same thing in the same way achieves.
I am trying to show you that your system is flawed by pointing out how the inputs are working.
I mean you’re trying to say a system is flawed you don’t understand similar to how scum rebelled against the solve in the game I linked that was correct?
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:44 pm

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In post 4157, MathBlade wrote:There is a lot more to it that I am quite frankly too tired to explain.

I would rather case you
You keep saying that, but you never do.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head to force you to click reply, are they?

Reply to this post if they are.
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:45 pm

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In post 4159, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4157, MathBlade wrote:There is a lot more to it that I am quite frankly too tired to explain.

I would rather case you

Do you want me to respond to your case ?
When I do it you’re more than welcome to. Same as anyone else

I am mostly going to make it to sync with IV.
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:46 pm

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In post 4160, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4158, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4155, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4154, Aristeia wrote:your system is basically taking a poe3 that's exactly symmetrical and then concluding that I'm mech-scum because House townreads me.
You keep stating this repeatedly and it’s been addressed. I don’t see what saying the same thing in the same way achieves.
I am trying to show you that your system is flawed by pointing out how the inputs are working.
I mean you’re trying to say a system is flawed you don’t understand similar to how scum rebelled against the solve in the game I linked that was correct?
Anything town can do, scum can do.

The inverse is also true.

That is WHY MOTIVE MATTERS.
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:47 pm

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In post 4160, MathBlade wrote:I mean you’re trying to say a system is flawed you don’t understand similar to how scum rebelled against the solve in the game I linked that was correct?
That game had three scum alive and eight players alive total. The three scum wanted to kill the pair that had no scum in it. Hence that pair is town according to your "system"

In this game there are only four players and I am literally showing you how your numerical inputs are generating your "mech-result"

The only scenario in which your result is valid is if House is scum.
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:49 pm

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In the scenario in which House is town; your system basically just takes whoever House townreads and turns that person into "mech-scum"
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:51 pm

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In this game scum want to kill a pair of players. They have one of two outs. It’s the same scenario repackaged differently
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:52 pm

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In this case the IV me “hood” is pure
The you House hood likely has one if not both scum in it
Andres and Dats likely has one if not both town
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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:55 pm

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Mathblade I just want you to be honest with me on this and I don't care about anything else:

When you write your case on why I'm scum.

Are you writing it to convince everyone else to kill me?

Or are you asking me to explain why I'm town to you?

Because if you've made up your mind you would save me a lot of time by just being straight with me so I know to stop wasting time on this game.
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:57 pm

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In post 4168, Aristeia wrote:Mathblade I just want you to be honest with me on this and I don't care about anything else:

When you write your case on why I'm scum.

Are you writing it to convince everyone else to kill me?

Or are you asking me to explain why I'm town to you?

Because if you've made up your mind you would save me a lot of time by just being straight with me so I know to stop wasting time on this game.
Neither.

I am writing it for IV who when motivated has good reads and can chew on it and help me sync on reads.
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Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:00 pm

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Do you want me to actually answer or address your case?
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:01 pm

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In post 4170, Aristeia wrote:Do you want me to actually answer or address your case?
If you think it fruitful yes.
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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:02 pm

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I so wish I was wrong and Mathblade had a greater than -100% percent chance of dying tonight.
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Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:04 pm

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I'm asking you if
you
think it will be useful.

If you're just going to ignore me I'm fine not bothering you with it and saving myself the effort.
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:05 pm

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In post 4173, Aristeia wrote:I'm asking you if
you
think it will be useful.

If you're just going to ignore me I'm fine not bothering you with it and saving myself the effort.
You're not going to change his mind.

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