open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[skitter30]

Andante: 2
skitter30: 3
midwaybear: 5
Mare: 6
innocentvillager: 10
SirCakez: 12
Faker: 14
catboi: 21
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 + coin flip victory
Datisi: 1
northsidegal: 8 + coin flip victory
Sleepless Assassin: 8
flow trap: 9 + coin flip victory
Something_Smart: 9.

Although if thay's right scum *had* to have doubled-up somewhere which is, uh, a thing i guess

[skitter30]

Wouldnt put that past ss tho

[skitter30]

why is catboi not aligned with mena again?

Started the mena wagon day2 and after it switched to midway went back to mena again

Mena was trying to angle to get me to wagon catboi

If catboi is scum idk what he picked (probably went for ascetic cop tbh)

Not sure if mena guilties partner-catboi

[skitter30]

re: voting on catboi/cakez. skitt I was barely making it to thread last week, I didn't know the exact wagons. I'm only here now because no students turned up during my last 1.5hrs and so I can be here for a bit while avoiding lesson planning

would you be interested in doing catboi now ?

^ here, wanted me to vote catboi with him
Apparently didnt know thay catboi was the biggest wagon starting the day

[Datisi]

Wouldnt put that past ss tho

i absolutely would and i am starting to doubt my tr on you

[skitter30]

Why

[Datisi]

i need to go but i am uncertain why you're saying "catboi and mena aren't aligned because catboi started the mena wagon" when mena was being less than useless and we all know how catboi acts towards his scumbuddies

same argument for the guilty, was mena ever really winning that

i'll revisit this sequence of events later today, i gotta run now, but by this cursory glance, i am Not A Fan

[Datisi]

because a mechanics expert who tried to maximise the stuff that scum got in that run of pyp where he was scum wouldn't double up on a fucking 9, and then pick multitasking, and i am betting the game on that

later

[Datisi]

like, why did mena claim to have cleared you when it was clear from reading his iso for 15 seconds that he didn't have a clear on you

he was meant to die there

how is nobody talking about this

[skitter30]

I'm asking more abt the ss bit

~

And r.e. catboi i think he tried the most to get the slot out day2
And independant of that i still dont think he plays this game this way as scum

And i dont think he lets mena fake a guilty on him when he's playing this way either

~

Bye dats! We shall see how much energy i have later!

[skitter30]

because a mechanics expert who tried to maximise the stuff that scum got in that run of pyp where he was scum wouldn't double up on a fucking 9, and then pick multitasking, and i am betting the game on that

later

He's also relying on the fact that no scum has doubled up...


I do agree that its janky tho. This whole game is janky tho

Also idk why mena decided to 'clear' me, i wouldnt have let him make that claim if i was partners eith him since it was kinda dumb. But even if mena was supposed to die there, catboi was pushing him *day2*, before the claim

[skitter30]

What do u think abt my kaiji/vig theory?

[Datisi]

again, i will go through that when i get home later today, but "catboi pushed scum so he's town" is not convincing by itself whatsoever

What do u think abt my kaiji/vig theory?

what's the theory, that they thought they replaced you and that andante is vig?

that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever considering that, had they replaced into your slot, they would've known that you went for tracker/jailkeeper and not vig/pgo so i have no clue how you're getting here lmfao

[Datisi]

like, only now i realized how that makes less than zero sense

[Datisi]

i don't think scum!you blunders on that, unsure if scum!you wouldn't think to fake blunder like that tho

[Datisi]

He's also relying on the fact that no scum has doubled up...

for as long as i remember, s_s was like "town wins via power roles!" (i believe i first heard him say that in that old pyp game where i was cop) so i find it extremely unlikely that he would throw that away just for The Wifom -- especially considering he's not a huge dayplay influence and probably wouldn't be able to capitalize on the wifom points it would bring him

[Datisi]

wait, no, i'm stupid, they did replace nsg, they just thought they were in your draft position

it is still early in the morning for me excuse me

[Datisi]

i'll revisit their potential progression around that later too, they did say who they thought was vig but i forgor, was it andante? makes some sense yeah sure

[skitter30]

that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever considering that, had they replaced into your slot, they would've known that you went for tracker/jailkeeper and not vig/pgo so i have no clue how you're getting here lmfao

No, i'm saying they got told their slot went for vig/pgo, and failed to get it, and thought that the og person who went for vig/pgo in the second slot was me, and that therefore andante was vig

They were wrong, but this is what they thought upon repping in, and i dont think they think that as scum (particularly that andante was vig) as they'd know where the vig is

I know that my slot didnt pick vig, i didnt blunder anything ... i was explaining how i think town-kaiji was viewing the game upon repping in

[skitter30]

again, i will go through that when i get home later today, but "catboi pushed scum so he's town" is not convincing by itself whatsoever

I mean if catboi's scum with mena he's playing a p bad game, sure, but the only thing be did good-ish from a scum perspecticd was have a nice trajectory on mena day2 and then decided to have mena fake a weird guilty on him which like i suppose is possible but i dont really see it

And if ss is town because he doesnt double-up with any of the scum candidiates, i'm left with like you/alyssa (ans you're still doubled up), ss with catboi, or catboi with anybody (except i'm not really convinced we're in that universe)

Ss with catboi means catboi is ascetic cop i think? I dont think he actually goes for neighborizer as top scum there ...
And if he is, and mena guilties his partner, scum is betting nobody else takes any actions on catboi for the rest of the game ....

That doesnt really make much sense either

[Something_Smart]

I thought Kaiji thought Andante was vig because IV died and Andante was scumreading him

[skitter30]

Yes but i think kaiji used that to back up their initial theory / relied on that once they realized their theory was wrong

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Datisi

skitter30

Andante

Kaiji northsidegal

Something_Smart
SirCakez
catboi
Mare
Menalque PookyTheMagicalBear
midwaybear

Midwaybear gives the most info on the game itself if flipped
SirCakez is a slot I think will have to be flipped at some point, so is a safe option for future sanity reasons
catboi is the single slot most likely to be turned on for paranoia reasons, so is a safe option even though I don't think it's very productive atm
S_S mostly is just a slot I struggle to read, nowadays I'm a little more confident I will be able to read him correctly over time since I think the game won't be stagnant like it was early in the day forever, so I'm not really into it
Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

Mare/Menalque are the lazy way out kills that will have to be sorted somehow eventually but it gives us borderline nothing to kill today

just realized this looks weird

we get basically nothing from flipping either of them

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I've seen people scumread me for that Menalque slot read

Idk what to tell you about that one, it's simply more productive to kill slots that give more information about the game than slots that have done zilch in that situation, if you want to scumread me for not wanting to kill a slot that has nothing readable that happened to be scum in a gamestate that was extremely lethargic with multiple unreadable slots, idk what to tell you there at that point

[catboi]

and so the assumption is what, if I do get voted I get to vengekill someone and mena gets outed anyway? That's idiotic.

the assumption is that you get voted and the game goes straight to melo and then Mena fakes a guilty on Dats or someone else in the vig PoE for the win. It does not sound idiotic to me. (Or at the very least, it's less idiotic than you flipping goon and scum still needing another mislim and Mena needing to make up results that don't immediately get him killed.)

Do you realize that it would look absolutely terrible to have a claimed cop surviving overnight? And that if that were

the plan

for some reason, I'd just immediately roll over and let myself die rather than fighting back? This is just an incredibly farfetched scenario

Like, aren't you supposed to be

good

with mechanics?