Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Umlaut]

My first thought is that someone's desperate to frame Nero. Greeting was his counterwagon and only Frozen was voting him along with Greeting.

This means that once again I won't be voting Nero today. In fact that's the first thing I have decided to do (or not to do actually) today.

I think you are overthinking this.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Yeah? Then explain to me how scum gets to E-2 less than 2 [pages] from the start of the day without an explicit guilty on them

By just... having four votes on them? I don't feel like any special explanation is needed here.

Why do you think it's impossible for four people out of eleven to vote scum at the start of the day?

[fireisredsir]

My first thought is that someone's desperate to frame Nero. Greeting was his counterwagon and only Frozen was voting him along with Greeting.

This means that once again I won't be voting Nero today. In fact that's the first thing I have decided to do (or not to do actually) today.

I think you are overthinking this.

VOTE: Nero Cain

usually it's maf that says this

[Eyes without a face]

i don't nesccearily think that just because 3 votes on nero within 2 pages makes nero town, and I dont see how u think a countewagon makes the person counterwagoned mafia?

I did it both ways didn't I? Consider Nero scum and Scorpious town one time then do the math again with the inverse. One could also argue both could be town but I hardly see it as both being scum so there's that. IMHO it's more likely Scorpious is the mafia of the two because he actually got voted first so the way I see it Nero is the counterwagon to Scorpious and not the other way around.

[Eyes without a face]

Why do you think it's impossible for four people out of eleven to vote scum at the start of the day?

Because town by nature are more cautious on D2 when they have misyeeted on D1. We are currently losing and we don't have a guilty on Nero so it doesn't make sense that 3 or 4 townies decided to yolo vote the same person with the opening 50 posts of the day

[fireisredsir]

townies often don't make sense. if they always did then this game would be easy.

i don't think which wagon came first and which one was the counterwagon so far today really matters that much because they were two of the top candidates from yesterday near the end of the day. it seems natural that suspicions would carry over and they would still be top choices

[Eyes without a face]

Fair enough. You can take your time to decide which is more likely to flip scum. After all we have the whole day ahead of us so no hurry

[HockeyFan]

i don't nesccearily think that just because 3 votes on nero within 2 pages makes nero town, and I dont see how u think a countewagon makes the person counterwagoned mafia?

I did it both ways didn't I? Consider Nero scum and Scorpious town one time then do the math again with the inverse. One could also argue both could be town but I hardly see it as both being scum so there's that. IMHO it's more likely Scorpious is the mafia of the two because he actually got voted first so the way I see it Nero is the counterwagon to Scorpious and not the other way around.

TBH idt scorpious getting the first vote makeas them any more likely to be mafia, the 2 wagons rn both ahd suspicion EOD yday so ??

[Eyes without a face]

@hockey: it's not the fact he got voted first. it's the fact a counterwagon was raised to protect him. One vote on Scorpious then one vote on Nero was fine. Nero gets a second and that was still ok. Then Nero went back to one and Scorpious received another and

that was also fine

. Then Nero received a second vote which VOTE: is[/s] the issue here. Why does Scorpious vote his counterwagon so early? Need I remind you that Scorp was also on Greeting by the end of yesterday? And then the ease Umlaut shrugged my view and voted Nero pinged me too. All I'm saying is from where I stand I think Scorpious is scum and Nero is town who i4s being used as a shield or diversion if you will. That's my view. Now you can take your time to analyze it or you can ignore it all and use your own scumhunting technique and decide for yourself. For me Scorpious is scum and then

at least one

of Umlaut/Stephen is his partner. The third one is between Umlaut/Stephen/Dwlee. That's my solve.

[fireisredsir]

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

This doesn't come from scum I don't think. If Nero is Town scum would stand their ground and wait for a hammer. If Nero is Scum the unvote brings a lot of attention to Scorpious once Nero is flipped.

what changed your mind from this?

[Eyes without a face]

Four different people argued against it including two of my strongest townreads and they can't all be scum, so I guess I stand corrected

[Eyes without a face]

My two strong townreads I'm referring to worst and Hockey. The other two were wave and Umlaut

[fireisredsir]

do you think that hockey and worst being townreads makes them that much more likely to be right

[Andante]

My dilemma: I want to vote Nero, but I didn't like the composition of the d1 nero wagon, and I don't like the composition of today's nero wagon

[Andante]

VOTE: eyes

[Andante]

The other two were wave and Umlaut

there is no way these 2 are strong TRs

[fireisredsir]

he didn't say they were

[Eyes without a face]

do you think that hockey and worst being townreads makes them that much more likely to be right

At least they're being honest about what they think is theoretical mafia play

[Eyes without a face]

@Andante: Sometimes I feel like I'm talking a dead language and onlt fire is an expert in reading it. Sigh

[Eyes without a face]

Four different people argued against it including two of my strongest townreads and they can't all be scum, so I guess I stand corrected

My two strong townreads I'm referring to worst and Hockey. The other two were wave and Umlaut

What I said: Four people argued against my reasoning. 2 of them are Hockey and worst whom I strongly townread. The other two

that argued against it

were Umlaut and wave. Also if you had been reading I said my solve had Umlaut by like 75%

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: Dwlee

[the worst]

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: eyes

why vote eyes here tho?

[HockeyFan]

the worst town?!? But yea, i dislike how dwlee has only focused on eyes while having a general read on everyone else(im down to kill them). And at this point of the game, i do not think its a town mentality

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is just scum and if you wanna make 70 more pages of posts instead of limming them be my guest I guess

[HockeyFan]

No one is saying that, but it feels like you're using the fact that there are too many pages to only put suspicion on ONE person while having a very very general read on everyone else

[Dwlee99]

Do you actually want me to read more of the game before I flip my number one suspect