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Post Post #6725 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:55 pm

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In post 6723, NorwegianboyEE wrote:One thing i’m curious about.
How would an scenario in which we move into night with 2 scum, 1 town and 1 mold that is bulletproof and has tagged all other players resolve? Technically scum would win instantly by that point due to controlling 50% of the game regardless of what would have happened that night, right?
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Post Post #6726 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:00 pm

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This is the kind of game I shrug at and move on. I saved a townie with my ability night 1, helped drive the kill on scum day 2 and died night 2 as the first night kill in a very long game.

Not reaaaaalllllllly sure what else I was meant to do this game, aha. GG to those who played, I suppose?
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Post Post #6727 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:01 pm

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Like, I'm sure a bunch of you played well I just didn't follow this after my death.

So congrats to all of you!
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Post Post #6728 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:13 pm

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MVP to Norwee.

I genuinely dragged our hydra down here, I was certain on Mastina being town until the 3p-denial - but it was too late at that point.

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Post Post #6729 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:14 pm

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In post 6666, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Scum had an doctor? Now that’s extremely annoying.
I wanted everyone to die and the setup screws me over like that.
A doctor which targeted me, which I copied for a second doctor each night
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Post Post #6730 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:23 pm

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What happened night 7? Galron thought he targeted Roden, but he apparently didn't submit anything
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Post Post #6731 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:34 pm

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I never got a second phone call. I assumed dead chat gave up/lost interest.
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Post Post #6732 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:45 pm

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In post 5150, Roden wrote:Dunn also hinted that the Mold actually is a scum ability.
In post 5765, mastina wrote:Toogeloo was apparently molded on N5. Dunnstral is claiming that it's mylo. (Not quite the word used, message used a more "modern" term but I'm paraphrasing here.)
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Post Post #6733 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:13 pm

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Galron didn't submit that night
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Post Post #6734 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:28 pm

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Well done, Norwee! Well done, scumteam!
I was spectating this game (and rooting for Norwee).

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Post Post #6735 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:30 pm

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And by the way I think that you were amazing, Town!

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Post Post #6736 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:50 pm

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In post 6714, Lukewarm wrote:Scum could have beaten you if they shot you last night, but they apparently didn't, so that is the thing that tipped the game to you. You still had your bulletproof.
Our win con allowing us to win in this exact situation was a factor in our night actions last night

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Post Post #6737 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:53 pm

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We also dismissed norwe as the mold because we had roleblocked him night 7 oops
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Post Post #6738 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:53 pm

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NORWEE I TRUSTED YOU D:



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Post Post #6739 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:53 pm

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(the asterisk is for my next post)
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Post Post #6740 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:02 pm

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In post 6666, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Scum had an doctor? Now that’s extremely annoying.
I wanted everyone to die and the setup screws me over like that.
There's another side to that coin, Norwee.

The town commented that the scum weren't hunting for the 3p.

The thing is, we
were
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With our
roleblock
, instead of the nightkill.

When the scum PT is released (
no redactions
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I figured out that the mold would show as their safeclaim to a rolecop (kinda sorta).
We both figured out that the mold would have a 1x bulletproof.
After the fact, Cephrir even figured out that your mold was roleblock-immune. (And I was going to write a post about this in the scum PT but ran out of time, basically outlining, "there's X worlds" where some were Norwee-mold related, where we could, or couldn't, block your ignite.)

And most critically of all?

The night immediately following the Andante elimination?

We knew you were the mold.


We knew you were the mold, and we were planning to take advantage of you being the mold in order to guarantee a scum win: we knew that you wouldn't be able to douse tictac so you would need to eliminate tictac, which meant that in the 6p mylo, scum couldn't be voted out. And to make sure of it, we roleblocked you and the plan was for Cephrir to fakeclaim having been molded. (You'll see the why when the PT is released.)

Imagine our surprise when Cephrir, instead of needing to fakeclaim having been molded, was
actually molded
in spite of us having roleblocked you!

So while you say "Scum had an doctor? Now that’s extremely annoying.
I wanted everyone to die and the setup screws me over like that."...

...I can say: Mold had immunity to the roleblock? Now that’s extremely annoying.
I wanted the 3p to not win and the setup screws me over like that. :P

So I'll call it even. :P
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Post Post #6741 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:05 pm

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In post 6674, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t want to like have a pity prize. If the wincon was written to be 50% then it’s 50%.
It's okay Norwee, I know the feeling of being 3p that was intending to win solo, only to end up having to share it with the mafia. <3
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Post Post #6742 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:07 pm

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In post 6684, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The whole reason i fought against no lim was because i knew a town lim on Tictac would fulfill scums win condition before i could activate my nuke.
Ditto for me fighting against the no-lim. I fought against it because I knew that if tictac was eliminated with nobody left undoused, the nuke could be fired right then and there. :P
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Post Post #6743 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:15 pm

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In post 6703, Ircher wrote:
In post 6700, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway i’m grateful for being allowed to win by technicality, but i can’t accept this as an win in my heart :/
I was never supposed to be able to scumside, my goal was to destroy everyone, and i didn’t factor in scum doctor that could block my killing. If i’d known that i would have radically changed my strategy and focused a lot more on killing scum than i ended up doing.
You deserve a Hannibal nom. Arsonist is really hard to play, harder than a serial killer, and you still did extraordinarily well.
I do need to go to bed thanks to opening work shift tomorrow, but this is something I intend to do tomorrow.

(Speaking of which: with this game now ended I will have quite a rant to post tomorrow, too.)
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Post Post #6744 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:18 pm

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In post 6714, Lukewarm wrote:Mod said that you would have had to reapply your mold and then reignite to kill Mastina. If they had ever identified you, and shot you, then they would have won the race.
I mean, if Norwee ignited, then I live thanks to the doctor, and if Norwee needed to reapply the mold, that's me getting rid of Norwee's BP while Norwee reinfects me, and then Norwee pulling the trigger the next night while I also pull the trigger, resulting in us both being dead to each other.

I do lose that race tho if Norwee
didn't
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Post Post #6745 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:19 pm

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In post 6721, Noraa wrote:massy dont you love us :[
Yes and in this game which is hellish for the town, killing you is a sign of affection, as to end your suffering. :P
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Post Post #6746 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:22 pm

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In post 6728, Flea The Magician wrote:I was certain on Mastina being town until the 3p-denial
I didn't deny the 3p tho?

I said it was impossible for the 3p to be benevolent, which was true, because the 3p wasn't benevolent.

I said the mold would thus inherently be malevolent--which it was.

I knew because I was scum that the mold was 3p, but a town me wouldn't know if it was malevolent-3p or scum-malevolent but I wouldn't
care
because it'd be malevolent regardless.
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Post Post #6747 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:49 pm

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Galron, were you trying to fool me and Ircher into thinking Roden was 3p, thinking we might have a way to communicate with our team?
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Post Post #6748 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:09 pm

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In post 6728, Flea The Magician wrote:I genuinely dragged our hydra down here, I was certain on Mastina being town until the 3p-denial - but it was too late at that point.
Nooooo thats not true. at the end you shifted to massy scum and i was the only opposing one
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Post Post #6749 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm

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In post 6745, mastina wrote:
In post 6721, Noraa wrote:massy dont you love us :[
Yes and in this game which is hellish for the town, killing you is a sign of affection, as to end your suffering. :P
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