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Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:46 pm

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That moment when I FoS myself lol
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Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:49 pm

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In post 4023, Yeet wrote:
In post 4020, Titus wrote:
In post 4019, Yeet wrote:Sounds like you are tilted that you think I am playing “objectively worse” than you because I don’t write tons of logic and switch a lot, yet you’re the one getting wagoned
Yuck
What is wrong with my statement? Are you just saying this because you are a very facts and logic based player?
Nope. My gut says it's because you know April's town. Like why would you jump to him being tilted? Second, professor style tones are rarely tilted. If April was tilted, I'd expect more contempt from the words he's typing.
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Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:57 pm

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In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
In post 4022, Yeet wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
Why even read page one we all knew you were just gonna do that anyway :P
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I think luminary suggested the first 60 pages and then skipping to when April becomes active which I'd like because Titus' slot is one I really need to sort.

An alternative approach, not really reading at all and providing fresh reads as they come, could be helpful for scum hunting but would be more difficult for us to read Titus' slot itself.
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Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:01 pm

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In post 4024, Titus wrote:Using a quick view of the VCs, I would look at Datisi and fua closer. Not superb reasoning but developing reads on those two would give reads on the whole.

My current theory is that scum were sheeping people to punish controversy and just placing easy votes. While it's possible, it's rare for scum to be aggressive when they don't need to be.

Math's prior poster likely provoked a scum vote or two not because of his opinions but what he was saying. Such callousness would make me want to vote him out if he wasn't a mason.
Can you explain why your analysis is implicating Datisi and fua?

Also does your method of VCA become more helpful the more slots are flipped?
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Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 4022, Yeet wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
Why even read page one we all knew you were just gonna do that anyway :P
I'm actually surprised that she read page 1.
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Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 4027, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
In post 4022, Yeet wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
Why even read page one we all knew you were just gonna do that anyway :P
Yeah it's potentially a LAMIST statement to make with a built in excuse to not share thoughts.

I think luminary suggested the first 60 pages and then skipping to when April becomes active which I'd like because Titus' slot is one I really need to sort.

An alternative approach, not really reading at all and providing fresh reads as they come, could be helpful for scum hunting but would be more difficult for us to read Titus' slot itself.
Ooh fresh meat.

I'm not an easy player to read. I just think differently. I feel I'm pretty transparent but I'm the only one who feels this way.

I try to read people by what they do as opposed to what they say. I care more about why than the what. So early pregame RVS generally makes my eyes bleed. Occasionally I do try, but that try is legit NAI.
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Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:05 pm

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In post 4028, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4024, Titus wrote:Using a quick view of the VCs, I would look at Datisi and fua closer. Not superb reasoning but developing reads on those two would give reads on the whole.

My current theory is that scum were sheeping people to punish controversy and just placing easy votes. While it's possible, it's rare for scum to be aggressive when they don't need to be.

Math's prior poster likely provoked a scum vote or two not because of his opinions but what he was saying. Such callousness would make me want to vote him out if he wasn't a mason.
Can you explain why your analysis is implicating Datisi and fua?

Also does your method of VCA become more helpful the more slots are flipped?
They're major wagons at various gamestates. Knowing the options scum have suggests where they might want to be on the wagon.

Absolutely yes. I'm using it now to just get feet wet. The more we know about options, the more we can tell about an agenda.

For instance, assuming Math is a mason, then why would scum shoot monkey over Math? What does that say? Votes can and do tell a similar story.
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Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:05 pm

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scum do post during RVS so it's possible to find scum during "RVS"

can we kill VP now?
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Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:06 pm

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In post 3995, Scorpious wrote:Eyes,

Do you have any thoughts on the replacements?
Sure. One of them is a MASON, and one is a CLAIMED VIG. I like April out of the other 3, and the remaining 2 haven't posted anything meaningful yet.

As for the respective slots, aside from Math and Enchant all other 3 were in my PoE.

Now the icing on the cake: They all replaced IN DAY TWO (except Math if memory serves) so that's way different (i.e. the "theory" doesn't apply)

Oh, and by the way I'm an alt of a face with no eyes. lol
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Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:06 pm

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In post 4032, Nero Cain wrote:scum do post during RVS so it's possible to find scum during "RVS"

can we kill VP now?
I didn't get a staunch read either way yet. Why?
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Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm

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In post 4033, Eyes without a face wrote:one is a CLAIMED VIG
Wait what? I never claimed vig.
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Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm

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The last statement in applies to Dragon I think. It's possible Dragon's approach to the game is helpful for town!Dragon for his scum hunting and unhelpful for others to determine Dragon's alignment.
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Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:10 pm

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In post 4031, Titus wrote:assuming Math is a mason
:facepalm:
In post 4031, Titus wrote:then why would scum shoot monkey over Math?
its Math...
In post 4034, Titus wrote:I didn't get a staunch read either way yet. Why?
So you read him? If so why did you not talk about him. If your post wasn't about VP then I have no clue what you are on about.
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Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:17 pm

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In post 4035, Titus wrote:
In post 4033, Eyes without a face wrote:one is a CLAIMED VIG
Wait what? I never claimed vig.
Enchant is the claimed vig. Previously fua
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Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:19 pm

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In post 4035, Titus wrote:
In post 4033, Eyes without a face wrote:one is a CLAIMED VIG
Wait what? I never claimed vig.
Enchant is the claimed vig (well Enchant slt is, since it was fua who claimed it on D1)
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Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:26 pm

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In post 4032, Nero Cain wrote:scum do post during RVS so it's possible to find scum during "RVS"

can we kill VP now?
I'm worried shinier topics are going to distract from the VP wagon.
In post 4030, Titus wrote:
In post 4027, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
In post 4022, Yeet wrote:
In post 4021, Titus wrote:*sees inanity of page 1*

*bolts to VCs*
Why even read page one we all knew you were just gonna do that anyway :P
Yeah it's potentially a LAMIST statement to make with a built in excuse to not share thoughts.

I think luminary suggested the first 60 pages and then skipping to when April becomes active which I'd like because Titus' slot is one I really need to sort.

An alternative approach, not really reading at all and providing fresh reads as they come, could be helpful for scum hunting but would be more difficult for us to read Titus' slot itself.
Ooh fresh meat.

I'm not an easy player to read. I just think differently. I feel I'm pretty transparent but I'm the only one who feels this way.

I try to read people by what they do as opposed to what they say. I care more about why than the what. So early pregame RVS generally makes my eyes bleed. Occasionally I do try, but that try is legit NAI.
This post is fair because I wasn't asking any questions in so Titus is like mirroring me which makes me think town a little bit (or a deliberate pocketing attempt.)
In post 4031, Titus wrote:
In post 4028, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4024, Titus wrote:Using a quick view of the VCs, I would look at Datisi and fua closer. Not superb reasoning but developing reads on those two would give reads on the whole.

My current theory is that scum were sheeping people to punish controversy and just placing easy votes. While it's possible, it's rare for scum to be aggressive when they don't need to be.

Math's prior poster likely provoked a scum vote or two not because of his opinions but what he was saying. Such callousness would make me want to vote him out if he wasn't a mason.
Can you explain why your analysis is implicating Datisi and fua?

Also does your method of VCA become more helpful the more slots are flipped?
They're major wagons at various gamestates. Knowing the options scum have suggests where they might want to be on the wagon.

Absolutely yes. I'm using it now to just get feet wet. The more we know about options, the more we can tell about an agenda.

For instance, assuming Math is a mason, then why would scum shoot monkey over Math? What does that say? Votes can and do tell a similar story.
Okay so you think Datisi and fua seem scummy because they were viable mislim targets who weren't being pushed very much?

As for HEM and Math I was looking at that earlier and the only difference that really stood out to me was that HEM was pretty vocal about sortng Yeet and even joined my vanity wagon for a little while and Math wasn't vocal about investigating Yeet.

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Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:32 pm

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In post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:I'm worried shinier topics are going to distract from the VP wagon.
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Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:33 pm

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In post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:HEM was pretty vocal about sortng Yeet and even joined my vanity wagon for a little while
What do you mean by vanity wagon?
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Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:38 pm

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In post 4042, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:HEM was pretty vocal about sortng Yeet and even joined my vanity wagon for a little while
What do you mean by vanity wagon?
I felt like I was the only one voting for Yeet most of the day. I think I was the only voter when HEM joined me.
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Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:39 pm

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In post 4030, Titus wrote:I try to read people by what they do as opposed to what they say. I care more about why than the what.
Aren't these two sentences opposites?
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Post Post #4045 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:40 pm

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In post 4040, Frogsterking wrote:I'm worried shinier topics are going to distract from the VP wagon.
oh shiny.....
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Post Post #4046 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:41 pm

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In post 4031, Titus wrote:For instance, assuming Math is a mason, then why would scum shoot monkey over Math?
Probably because Math gunked up the game for 30 pages and made a lot of players not want to listen to him.

I don't mean this in a rude way, what he's doing now is fine.
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Post Post #4047 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:56 pm

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In post 4026, Titus wrote:
In post 4023, Yeet wrote:
In post 4020, Titus wrote:
In post 4019, Yeet wrote:Sounds like you are tilted that you think I am playing “objectively worse” than you because I don’t write tons of logic and switch a lot, yet you’re the one getting wagoned
Yuck
What is wrong with my statement? Are you just saying this because you are a very facts and logic based player?
Nope. My gut says it's because you know April's town. Like why would you jump to him being tilted? Second, professor style tones are rarely tilted. If April was tilted, I'd expect more contempt from the words he's typing.
I was referring to Malcolm in that post.

The timeline is, I sussed Malcolm early, then April replaced in and started pushing Malcolm with reasons, and I liked that so April has firmly pocketed me at this point.
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Post Post #4048 (ISO) » Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:24 pm

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I'm really just feelin good vibes from yeet, eyes, and hell even Nero. I also think VPB and Tene are both town.


@Titus - I think DeasV and Fire likely have 1 scum in them, curious on your thoughts on those slots.
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