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[tenebrousluminary]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

[Titus]

also, someone (prob VP and Titus) keep talking about how we are in such a bad place but even if we are the only reason we are is b/c we didn't vote out VP yesterday like we should have.

No. We should be listening to VP's observation wall today.

We absolutely will be discussing that tomorrow if I have a say.

[Frogsterking]

Frogster, I think you missed this question.

VP I thought Galron had a good chance of going through EoD yesterday up until the hammer, I think I took Yeet's softs less seriously than other townies (I didn't take Yeet's softs seriously at all.)

No, I thought Galron was town not scum at the time I unvoted them D2. I think Galron has a tendency to be limbait in general, in this case I'd say VP is the main player trying to make use of it on D2.

This makes no sense. You are stating:

1) yeet was lying about an innocent on galron, or so you perceived until today.

2) galron was town.

These facts are in direct conflict with each other. Why would yeet fake a clear on galron, if galron was town about to be eliminated?

Yeet is the same player who delayed the start of the game because their original name was offensive to a Chinese player so the mods forced him to change it. Yeet is a little trolly in that they're very unconcerned with what others think and feel. Yeet is also whimsical and probably creative himself. I thought yeet was likely to be full of shit and I didn't consider fakeclaiming to be AI from them. I perceived softs to be coming in from both yeet and luminary and there was no reason in my mind to take either one more seriously than the other. I saw at least one player I townread mention yeet's earlier D2 treatment of the galron slot suggested yeet didn't actually have an inno on galron. I didn't verify this because I didn't think it was important compared to my scumread on you.

[fireisredsir]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

have less question marks

[VP Baltar]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

Well you saying I'm scum with frog seems incorrect. See, I'm helping

[tenebrousluminary]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

have less question marks

No

[Titus]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

have less question marks

No

What slots would VP's flip help you with?

[Nero Cain]

i'm town

[VP Baltar]

I didn't consider fakeclaiming to be AI from them.

What?

[VP Baltar]

I perceived softs to be coming in from both yeet and luminary

What????

[Frogsterking]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

No because you called me scum. You've got VP as scum though so I can work with that.

[tenebrousluminary]

Frogsterking - scum?
Scorpious - town
Save The Dragons - town?
Nero Cain - town?
DeasVail - ?
Titus - ?
Enchant - eisbfoejwbdkfjdneldj
Galron - town
fireisredsir - town
Eyes without a face - ?
VP Baltar - scum?
April Ludgate - scum?
Cape90 - town

Someone who's good at the economy help me budget this

have less question marks

No

What slots would VP's flip help you with?

That would depend on what he flips.

I plan to do significant rereading if he flips scum. If he flips town, April looks better, Nero worse, probably more.

[VP Baltar]

Frog, why would yeet make a YOLO fake claim to save a town wagon from lim if he was scum, which was your stated mindset at the time. You wanted to kill yeet, iirc.

[Enchant]

Would be funny if after VP death, mafia would simple NK Titus.

Now we can sheep.

[Titus]

I feel it's wrong to want the day over with but I kinda do. I don't see a way VP is saved, he doesn't want to be here, he's given final reads and I don't see what else we learn. Fighting for fighting's sake only hurts us.

[Titus]

Would be funny if after VP death, mafia would simple NK Titus.

Now we can sheep.

:/ Luckily Math FoSes me, so I don't see that happening. Then again, who knows. I see three possibilities. Kill conftown, kill correct town or kill a PR. These are not mutually exclusive.

[Nero Cain]

also, Titus' "agency captured" scenario and how she thinks is town doesn't really mesh with reality.

MalcolmTucker (9):

Eyes without a face

, Yeet, April Ludgate,

Scorpious

, Galron, VP Baltar, Titus, fireisredsir, MathBlade [E-0!]
VP Baltar (5):

DeasVail

, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, Save the Dragons, Nero Cain

VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, fireisredsir, MathBlade, tenebrousluminary, Save The Dragons [E-3]
Nero Cain (4): Titus, VP Baltar, Cape90,

Scorpious

Enchant (1): Enchant

*scorp vote moved for clarity

As we can clearly see 75% of her scumspects are the ones that wanted a not VP flip and today she thinks scum is voting me while still not wanting a VP flip.

[VP Baltar]

I feel it's wrong to want the day over with but I kinda do. I don't see a way VP is saved, he doesn't want to be here, he's given final reads and I don't see what else we learn. Fighting for fighting's sake only hurts us.

I agree with this. I'd rather this is over sooner than later. This game stopped being fun for me quite awhile ago, and it is just repeating the same terrible arguments and biases at this point.

That being said, I'd rather you don't vote me Titus because that is just one more slot scum don't have to commit to. Frogster for example. I'd rather they have to put their necks out there.

[Nero Cain]

Also not that if I get flipped instead of VP this will be the second time town has been a CW to a VP wagon.

[Titus]

Agency captured just requires town to unwittingly do scum's bidding. Nothing about that requires a particular spot on the wagon.


That being said....

Here's 2.8

VP Baltar (6): Scorpious, tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, MathBlade [E-3]

[fireisredsir]

nero what are the chances we can pull off a switch to titus

and if so can we ever trust VP again

also 100% chance VP says no to this idea as either alignment

[Nero Cain]

but with your proposed team scums bidding has been to not let VP die....

[Titus]

but with your proposed team scums bidding has been to not let VP die....

#confused?

[Enchant]

VOTE: SAVE THE DRAGONS

BAH

[Titus]

VOTE: SAVE THE DRAGONS

BAH

Well at least it's in my scum pool.