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Post Post #6525 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 6515, April Ludgate wrote:VP Baltar (8): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary,
In post 6515, April Ludgate wrote:VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary,

obviously there is one in here..
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Post Post #6526 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:53 am

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anyway

VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #6527 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:53 am

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In post 6523, fireisredsir wrote:ok so i was thinking about this, and hear me out here... at first i didn't really buy that April genuinely thought the vp/frog/tene solve was a good one (cause it wasn't)

but

i think scum april would be smarter than that lol. like there's a few people saying "hmmm idk if i trust you" and math saying "let's follow you and see if you get us a scum" and i think like 95% of the time there scum april gives them a scum. i think scum april, knowing alignments, would be way less likely to consider the vp/frog solve (cause where do you even come up with that if you know vp is town) and use it as a basis to flip reads completely on vp. is that a thing? am i allowed to townread someone bc I think they'd be better at the game if they were maf? cause i kinda do
I stand by it being a decent moon theory :lol:

But...it could just be an extremely good scum play!

Yeah, I'm definitely lost this game, but I think i'm only a few clicks away from finding a solve, but the thing is, I don't have the trust/momentum, and have a good chance at being one of the final misfades this game.
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Post Post #6528 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:53 am

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less Nero,of course.
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Post Post #6529 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:55 am

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In post 6527, April Ludgate wrote:Yeah, I'm definitely lost this game, but I think i'm only a few clicks away from finding a solve, but the thing is, I don't have the trust/momentum, and have a good chance at being one of the final misfades this game.
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Post Post #6530 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:56 am

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In post 6525, Scorpious wrote:
In post 6515, April Ludgate wrote:VP Baltar (8): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary,
In post 6515, April Ludgate wrote:VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary,

obviously there is one in here..

I would agree. I do think Frogster is one of them.

Tene could be.

I'm not entirely sure with Titus, tbh. Like, yes, there's a strong case for scumTitus, but I think there's a chance at TownTitus here as well.
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Post Post #6531 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:57 am

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Might be time for me to deep dive into DV/Fire again. I think it's probably DV, who also pairs well with Titus/Frog.
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Post Post #6532 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 6523, fireisredsir wrote:vp/frog/tene solve was a good one (cause it wasn't)

if Frog/Tene are both scum, this is a 66.6% correct list.
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Post Post #6533 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:59 am

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and you just taught this person why looking at patterns is so important.

I know..its obvious for some, i'm a slow learner..
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Post Post #6534 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:00 am

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frog is possible. eyes is possible. enchant is likely. deas is possible. tene is ehh
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Post Post #6535 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:01 am

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Hmmmmmmmm.
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Post Post #6536 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:02 am

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VP Baltar (8): Nero Cain
, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, DeasVail, April Ludgate,
Mathblade
, Titus [E-0!]
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar
, fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face
April Ludgate (1): Cape90

Not Voting (1):
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There's a scum on each of those wagons, likely more than scum on at least one of them.


Meaning there's at least one scum in STD, Frogster, Tene, DV, Titus (you can put me in that list if you want for clarity's sake)

And at least one scum in Fire, Enchant, Scorpious.

I don't necessarily think both Eyes and Cape are scum, might have one, might not, meaning at least 2 scum are likely on VPB, could be 3.
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Post Post #6537 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:04 am

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I am busy playing other games.

Hold up.
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Post Post #6538 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am

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In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon, especially considering a Nero wagon would have been a better misfade for scum than VPB who was just hanging on?

This likely means VPB was a better misfade for scum, meaning one of VPB's pushes were likely correct. VPB's pushes were Nero and Frog.

Frogster's comment saying people were gonna start pairing VPB/Frogster up was odd to me, and it's what really started to get me to feel that way. I read it wrong, but I think feeling the offness makes sense coming from FrogsterScum.

Now, that kind of defense feels eerily similar to a ScumKill on Nero, which had the potential to setup a Frogster/Cape 1v1, which means that the neighborhood could be all town.

I think Frogster has more scum equity than Cape.

Frogster/Enchant/Titus/DV

is my current solve. The further to the back, the less sure I am, but the front 2 feel pretty good for me.
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Post Post #6539 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 am

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Frogster calling Tene vs Malcolm was him knowing that they were TvT potentially.
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Post Post #6540 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 am

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In post 6524, April Ludgate wrote:Ugh, I had a correct town block with Yeet-VPB. Gonna go back and look to where my reads were at Day 2 now that I know Malcolm's town.
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Post Post #6541 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:09 am

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In post 6538, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon
Sure, of course that is possible. Surely we have learned a lesson from the neighborhood about arbitrary groups? Is that too much to hope for?
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Post Post #6542 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:09 am

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In post 6540, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6524, April Ludgate wrote:Ugh, I had a correct town block with Yeet-VPB. Gonna go back and look to where my reads were at Day 2 now that I know Malcolm's town.
…Why didn’t you do this D3?
I didn't know VPB was town then...?
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Post Post #6543 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:10 am

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In post 6538, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon, especially considering a Nero wagon would have been a better misfade for scum than VPB who was just hanging on?

This likely means VPB was a better misfade for scum, meaning one of VPB's pushes were likely correct. VPB's pushes were Nero and Frog.

Frogster's comment saying people were gonna start pairing VPB/Frogster up was odd to me, and it's what really started to get me to feel that way. I read it wrong, but I think feeling the offness makes sense coming from FrogsterScum.

Now, that kind of defense feels eerily similar to a ScumKill on Nero, which had the potential to setup a Frogster/Cape 1v1, which means that the neighborhood could be all town.

I think Frogster has more scum equity than Cape.

Frogster/Enchant/Titus/DV

is my current solve. The further to the back, the less sure I am, but the front 2 feel pretty good for me.
I think swap out Enchant or DV for Cape and this is viable

No way scum don’t have a person in that four player hood with TPR that has flipped
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Post Post #6544 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:10 am

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In post 5886, Titus wrote:Fire, how do we get the lurkers to take a stance with the lim locked on VP/Nero?
thought this was sus at the time (bc it wasn't locked on those two at the time, people were still willing to push elsewhere) and it's even more sus knowing both were town
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Post Post #6545 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:10 am

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In post 6541, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 6538, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon
Sure, of course that is possible. Surely we have learned a lesson from the neighborhood about arbitrary groups? Is that too much to hope for?
A vote count is not an arbitrary group like a neighborhood.
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Post Post #6546 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:11 am

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What if I told you that yes it is.
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Post Post #6547 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:12 am

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In post 6544, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 5886, Titus wrote:Fire, how do we get the lurkers to take a stance with the lim locked on VP/Nero?
thought this was sus at the time (bc it wasn't locked on those two at the time, people were still willing to push elsewhere) and it's even more sus knowing both were town
Titus time

VOTE: Titus

Titus also reacted weird when I tried to wagon Cape and started being defeatist when I tried to wagon Cape over VP.

Titus Cape Frogger I think nets 3 scum
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Post Post #6548 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:13 am

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In post 6543, MathBlade wrote:No way scum don’t have a person in that four player hood with TPR that has flipped
it's possible considering everyone is going to convince themselves into voting there and will always be paranoid that there is scum in it. nero kill does also shine a spotlight on cape which... could be wifom, could be not.
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Post Post #6549 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:14 am

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In post 6543, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6538, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6536, April Ludgate wrote:
Nero Cain (4): VP Baltar,
fireisredsir, Enchant, Scorpious

Let's talk about this one, since you 3 are the ones here.

Do you guys think this is a possible all 4 town on Nero wagon, especially considering a Nero wagon would have been a better misfade for scum than VPB who was just hanging on?

This likely means VPB was a better misfade for scum, meaning one of VPB's pushes were likely correct. VPB's pushes were Nero and Frog.

Frogster's comment saying people were gonna start pairing VPB/Frogster up was odd to me, and it's what really started to get me to feel that way. I read it wrong, but I think feeling the offness makes sense coming from FrogsterScum.

Now, that kind of defense feels eerily similar to a ScumKill on Nero, which had the potential to setup a Frogster/Cape 1v1, which means that the neighborhood could be all town.

I think Frogster has more scum equity than Cape.

Frogster/Enchant/Titus/DV

is my current solve. The further to the back, the less sure I am, but the front 2 feel pretty good for me.
I think swap out Enchant or DV for Cape and this is viable

No way scum don’t have a person in that four player hood with TPR that has flipped
I could see Cape in the DV slot.

Not 100% certain scum has to be in that neighborhood. I think I'm gonna dissolve the idea of the neighborhood this game, just because we should be going on play rather than Mod WIFOM which is all the neighborhood is now.
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