KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.11

• with
  19
  votes in play, it takes
  10
  to make a decision.
  
• day 1 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
  .
  
• 8
  players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:

fireisredsir [5]:

Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99

Morning Tweet [4]:

Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus

VP Baltar [3]:

Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever

GuiltyLion [2]:

Morning Tweet, Greeting

Frogsterking [1]:

StrangeMatter

StrangeMatter [1]:

VP Baltar

catboi [1]:

Enchant

not voting [3]:

Andresvmb, Andante

bomb expert nominations:

Andante [12]:

Menalque, Malakittens, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell, Enchant, Titus

Greeting [11]:

catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter, Enchant, Dwlee99

Frogsterking [8]:

Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Greeting, GuiltyLion, Enchant

catboi [8]:

VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, Cephrir, Enchant

PookyTheMagicalBear [6]:

Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, Enchant

Cat Scratch Fever [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir, Enchant

Malakittens [4]:

Enchant, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear

Dwlee99 [4]:

VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir, Enchant

Cephrir [4]:

Titus, Frogsterking, Enchant, Dwlee99

Morning Tweet [3]:

Malakittens, Greeting, Enchant

Titus [3]:

Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Enchant

StrangeMatter [3]:

Frogsterking, Greeting, Enchant

Bell [3]:

Enchant, Cephrir, Dwlee99

GuiltyLion [2]:

Malakittens, Enchant

Menalque [2]:

GuiltyLion, Enchant

VP Baltar [2]:

Enchant, Dwlee99

Enchant [1]:

Dwlee99

fireisredsir [1]:

Enchant

Andresvmb [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [1]:

Andresvmb

mod notes:

• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[fireisredsir]

1.) Scum is sitting idly while town just wins

Btw if this is the case the team is like...

Fire (luke slot), Mala (praet slot), Andres, and idk Titus?

So if we flip in there and keep hitting scum then fine by me but I'd like to not just assume that's the case

VOTE: Fire

Maybe strange could be as well cause I think they complained about me voting fire earlier?

if 1 is very unlikely then why are you voting assuming it's the case?

[StrangeMatter]

You literally jumped onto the Lukewarm wagon off of “Lukewarm didn’t explain scumread on me.” Which to me looked like an excuse to jump on a wagon I’d say is never a pure wagon.

Well he didn't so

My point still stands that it wouldn’t be hard to make that an excuse to just jump onto a wagon like that without taking any scrutiny.

Also, why are we suddenly nominating Enchant?

Hi, apologies for the non-sequitur, but you've made references to working on a reads list and having some scum leans you need to revisit, have you made any progress on that?

Haven’t been able to get progress on this, but it’s on the list of things I really should and want to do.

[VP Baltar]

I went back read rules and still can’t determine whether the player that specifically gave the wrong advice gets outted or not.
I don’t want enchant’s ambiguity in the teams if it’s the latter, they’re simply too easy to miselim.

mod, can you clarify? Does the bomb explode as soon as someone gives incorrect information?

[Dwlee99]

1.) Scum is sitting idly while town just wins

Btw if this is the case the team is like...

Fire (luke slot), Mala (praet slot), Andres, and idk Titus?

So if we flip in there and keep hitting scum then fine by me but I'd like to not just assume that's the case

VOTE: Fire

Maybe strange could be as well cause I think they complained about me voting fire earlier?

if 1 is very unlikely then why are you voting assuming it's the case?

you're probably scum in either theory ^-^

[fireisredsir]

i must inform you then that your theories are incorrect

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I have some time so I'll take another look at Luke and fire, but something about fire's way of formatting posts make them hard to read for me ._.

should i format them differently? ive never gotten this complaint but i am kinda new to forum format lol

It's not your fault, it's mostly my ADHD.

It makes it hard for me to read more than a couple of sentences in a paragraph when words are not properly capitalized.

Excessive line breaks help even more (like 849)

Keep typing the way you do if you want, I was planning on pasting your posts in a text file and adding line breaks anyway lol

[Enchant]

I went back read rules and still can’t determine whether the player that specifically gave the wrong advice gets outted or not.
I don’t want enchant’s ambiguity in the teams if it’s the latter, they’re simply too easy to miselim.

mod, can you clarify? Does the bomb explode as soon as someone gives incorrect information?

Even i can say "No."

Senseless question. If mafia would reveal self instantly like that, do you think game would even exist?

[Datisi]

I went back read rules and still can’t determine whether the player that specifically gave the wrong advice gets outted or not.
I don’t want enchant’s ambiguity in the teams if it’s the latter, they’re simply too easy to miselim.

mod, can you clarify? Does the bomb explode as soon as someone gives incorrect information?

bomb explosions happen at the end of the night, regardless of when during the night the submissions happened.

[Bell]

If you put 3 active players that have been selected because they’re townie and enchant is in the same squad, enchant dies tomorrow if the bomb explodes like 8 times out of 10. If the specific adviser doesn’t get outtrd.

It completely removes the opportunity to reconsider a town read by the majority. It is a horrifically bad strategy

[Andante]

i think this line of questioning whether dwlee has experience with enchant is a ludicrous waste of time

Agreed

[Bell]

HEAL: guiltylion

[Greeting]

I have been slightly townreading

Pooky

and so I'd rather be on the bomb solving team with him than with

catboi

who is more of a nullread.

HEAL: PookyTheMagicalBear

[Datisi]

prodding Menalque.

[fireisredsir]

rereading some slots that i didn't have a good feel for:

- CSF, i like a lot better than I did before. i think the push on dwlee is better than i thought it was at first, i kinda misread dwlee's play around andante and it's not as towny as i thought it was at first. i think 1380 is a good post as well and made me think twice about vp. doesn't really seem agenda-pushing, seems to be thinking independently, pretty towny imo

- dwlee, ive never been in a dwlee scumgame so i went and read a couple of them, especially since i liked csf posts around them. and i don't really think they're outside their scumrange here. buuut i still would slightly lean town if im looking pure meta bc i feel like they are a bit more proactive here than i saw in their scumgames. if im ignoring meta, ehhhh. @dwlee do you still think frog is maf?

- ceph feels... honest, imo, like very up front about what he's thinking and not really afraid if it looks bad. that usually makes me lean towards town. 521 was also the funniest post of the game, so points for that

- malakittens/the praetorian... yea nothing towny here. not blatantly scummy either, but i think the catchup attempt was pretty weak and didn't really result in any thoughts

i still think the slots im most sus of and that are most likely to have scum are not really present at the moment. there could be scum in the more talkative players but im not really seeing who? it would fit in dwlee's world of scum just sitting back and letting the town win if that isn't, like, an active choice of theirs. maybe they're just not here

[fireisredsir]

@greeting can you respond to 1333 (or 1357)? i don't understand your lion vote

[Andresvmb]

I’m back later tonight. I need a few hours to read everything.

[Bell]

2 hours later and still mad at dwlee for tanking my read of them if they’re town.
No, it doesn’t need to make sense.

[Dwlee99]

Are you trying to shift the blame for your wrong read onto me

[Dwlee99]

That's actually the exact kind of thing I expect scum!bell to say if they want to pivot to mislim me

I mean... really I'm mad at Bell for tanking my read on them if they're town
HURT: Bell

[Bell]

Yes. Don’t nom people that decrease our win con, then when questioned say you’ve correctly read them a bunch, and then refuse to specify what exactly made you town read them this game while simultaneously trolling about whether your votes were serious or not.

[Bell]

That's actually the exact kind of thing I expect scum!bell to say if they want to pivot to mislim me

I mean... really I'm mad at Bell for tanking my read on them if they're town
HURT: Bell

You’re definitely not reading the game closely if you think this isn’t anything but a good thing for me.
Why not just vote me instead?

[Bell]

Like I can’t even explain how bad it is that you directly admit that you only ever misread enchant when you’re scum to miselim them and then try to position them as an advisor that enables exactly that sort of scenario. Heck you don’t even have to pivot you can defend them while the rest of the town does the work for you.

And yes, frogster healing enchant was also bad.
Now that I’ve revealed myself to be judgmental as hell and utterly unlikable, can you respond dwlee.
*grumps* or don’t, w/e.

[catboi]

you're fine tbh

[Titus]

I went back read rules and still can’t determine whether the player that specifically gave the wrong advice gets outted or not.
I don’t want enchant’s ambiguity in the teams if it’s the latter, they’re simply too easy to miselim.

mod, can you clarify? Does the bomb explode as soon as someone gives incorrect information?

bomb explosions happen at the end of the night, regardless of when during the night the submissions happened.

So I take it bomb experts can change until End of Night?