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[MathBlade]

Confidence level on April town?

[fireisredsir]

high

[MathBlade]

high

Give me a percentage please? Or some sort of numerical scale.

[fireisredsir]

idk. nothing is ever 100%. but id say close enough to it that im not currently considering it as a possibility (ive done that enough already) and am perfectly comfortable with that. after we flip frog or cape we can talk about it more tomorrow if we're both still here. which we probably won't be, but still

[April Ludgate]

Here’s the thing, if Frogster is town, this is probably a scum victory because the scum victory path would be Frogster->April.

Why are you so focused on pathing instead of just a solve?

I was going to ask why April is so focused on how town is going to elim them

That’s the way town me works, i look for the shapes in the present, the past, and the future.

My entire goal in this game is to make sure that I can get town read enough to not get misfaded, honestly, more than solving since Fire and I have such similar reads.

At the end of the day, I’ve been pushing my solves anyways.

I’ve been kinda soul reading Fire for a few days, so even if there’s a little paranoia, logically i think they’re just town

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Malcolm

Don’t bother this is the best way to prove Boon scum

And that proves anything how?

Simple VCA and day play

Boon did anything g possible to avoid VP and Galron

I'm inclined to feel Galron might have been right on scum. Namely those that are right on scum are the ones getting pushed. If VP and April agreed on a scumread, then they are likely scum. I can't see us bumbling this bad without aggressive scum.

The problem is the belief that Math has been agency captured puts me in direct odds with him and I don't want that to become a clusterfuck.

This is when Titus says I was captured when I was right when Malcom was wrong.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Cape

I think Cape or Galron is where we need to go.

Titus really didn’t want Cape most of all.

There has to be a scum in that hood.

[MathBlade]

I just can’t get over Titus voting VP over Cape and I don’t get the Frogger push.

If Frogger is scum then I trust you all.

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

Like if I had a vig I would hit Galron.

[fireisredsir]

my gut says frog, but based on titus play i agree cape makes sense. i hope that wasn't intentionally set up by her, but it's hard to make that call

and chances are, it's both of them anyway

VOTE: Cape

[MathBlade]

Yeah mainly I can’t sort between the paranoia I have over you and April and the others. But Cape is most likely scum.

If I am wrong then I trust who is left.

[tenebrousluminary]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

[MathBlade]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.

[fireisredsir]

i don't think there's any reasonable chance that there isn't scum between frog and cape. there's good reasons for each of them. i think there's a good chance it's both of them. we have to choose one. i think letting math pick is a fine option because then at least we know the direction isn't being led by scum

[tenebrousluminary]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

[fireisredsir]

scorp and eyes want frog, DV wants cape, galron... hard to tell what he wants, he's kinda given points for several directions. dragons wants april, and eyes i think? idk

we're never gonna satisfy everyone and that's partly cause some of them are maf

[fireisredsir]

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

the reason is not due to setup spec and you should know that. i think math is just saying that at least if he is town we get some extra info out of it that we wouldn't get out of a frog town flip

[MathBlade]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

Fine I think Cape and Galron has a scum.

I think it’s most likely Cape but if not it proves Galron

My wording was shit. Any issues now?

[MathBlade]

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

the reason is not due to setup spec and you should know that. i think math is just saying that at least if he is town we get some extra info out of it that we wouldn't get out of a frog town flip

This

[MathBlade]

The way Titus disagreed with me on hood play when it’s a hallmark of her town game is bad.

Hell if both Fire and April are town a tene Cape Galron Titus scumteam makes sense

[tenebrousluminary]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

Fine I think Cape and Galron has a scum.

I think it’s most likely Cape but if not it proves Galron

My wording was shit. Any issues now?

Yes, but it's not relevant right now.

[MathBlade]

If Galron is scum we need Cape’s town flip to state that.

We are not really in a position to be doing this.

I tried to read Cape's iso earlier to see whether I'd be OK if it came to this, but I got bored. So I'll try again later.

Yes we are. If not now, when? After another town flip? Based on Titus’s play Cape is most likely scum. It’s who she resisted the most.

I mean, never. We can flip players for being scum. We can't flip players to prove other players anymore. We burned those "proving" April and we can see how that turned out. You'll never get my vote with an argument based on neighbor spec. The Titus/Cape case is the only reason I am even considering this.

Fine I think Cape and Galron has a scum.

I think it’s most likely Cape but if not it proves Galron

My wording was shit. Any issues now?

Yes, but it's not relevant right now.

What issues do you have?

[tenebrousluminary]

I don't think a town flip from Cape proves anything about Galron, and he is probably a traitor anyway if scum which is not all that helpful.

[the worst]

quack!

[the worst]

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[MathBlade]

I don't think a town flip from Cape proves anything about Galron, and he is probably a traitor anyway if scum which is not all that helpful.

Do you think Cape flips town?