KTaNE [game over!]

[Cephrir]

why?

i don't wanna say this yet in case i'm missing something

[Cephrir]

it's also maybe not my call, perhaps

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

notice how VP hasn’t gone back to being defuser… scum team knows he explodes if he goes back, so why wouldn’t town!vp go back to defusing???

well if VP is town he wouldn't go back to defuse either because Dwlee gets autoyeeted

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im pretty sure if the conclusion you r coming to was true that would've already been said dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ceph's reaction just makes me more sure he's town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe we should ask for clarification in case you're right and I'm wrong because having us on the wrong page doesn't make sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I'm down to out it if you are.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we need to flip VP just to see where we are on the defusal meter

if dude flips scum we don't defuse any bombs no matter who shows up in the PT

i dont care if catboi comes back from the dead

[Dwlee99]

I agree with not defusing anymore unless GL flips town (or I'm the defuser o3o)

[Cephrir]

im pretty sure if the conclusion you r coming to was true that would've already been said dude

then idk what is happening and would love some clarity! i thought that was what was being said

[Cephrir]

like I'm down to out it if you are.

i want to try to avoid it esp if you can convince me im wrong about what happened

[Cephrir]

im pretty sure if the conclusion you r coming to was true that would've already been said dude

then idk what is happening and would love some clarity! i thought that was what was being said

i can think of one other explanation but if it's that i don't see why obfuscate it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well do you want to wait for titus to come back and make a decision or do you just want to talk it out now

[Cephrir]

ugh maybe that actually makes more sense with what was said

pedit we should wait for clarity from her i think. no reason not to

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well I could be wrong about the plan because I thought the plan was one thing but maybe the plan is a different thing?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean do you know how game balance works dude

look at the graveyard lol

[Cephrir]

my leading theory is the whole plan was never real

pedit yeah. ur not wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I agree with not defusing anymore unless GL flips town (or I'm the defuser o3o)

I would definitely not trust you to defuse a bomb if VP flips scum :3

[GuiltyLion]

I think Baltar is scummier than Dwlee

Go on

Also, why do you think that scum picked you to defuse?

I've said a handful of times why I townread Dwlee, this doesn't vibe like their scumgame to me and I also think they've been remarkably genuine and straightforward in their reads/thought process and reactions under pressure - like everyone's thrown a ton of shit at Dwlee and I don't think I've seen a single instance of them twisting words or crafting a narrative to suit an agenda.

I think scum picked me to defuse cause it was a win win for them - either I get blown up and out of the way, or they can use a successful defuse to foment paranoia about me being scum and the scum count possibly at 3 refusals. See Andante's posts lmao, which I actually predicted might happen from her in the PT last night

they could have just openly scumread me and blown me up without much consequence

Actually, expand on this too please

I still think anyone unilaterally using the expert role to vig someone who isn’t a p consensus SR is kinda scumclaiming, so this doesn’t figure to me. I think you’re broadly p townread this game, so I’m not seeing how there would have been likely no consequence from them killing you

I don't feel broadly townread - I haven't tryharded all that much and I'm not like power leading on scum this game. I think scum would feel there's enough paranoia around me to rely on people either blowing me up or limming me without too much scrutiny. at least at this stage

[Dwlee99]

Like you'd trust me to defuse a bomb if he were town smh

[Cephrir]

if dwlee planned this entire situation i'll scream

that's probably what happened lmao

[GuiltyLion]

that nigjt 1 argument of “why whould scum team send vp to the top person SRing him makes perfect sense to me, and after last night, it’s like, I didn’t think GL was a huge TR nor was he bottom of the poe, I think GL was scum and they just solved their 3rd bomb, it is the only way this makes any sense

I predicted Andante could spin me being saved like this

no he was pretty level headed for the most part

im wondering if i was the dummy getting the wool pulled over my eyes in that pt

then yeah, there’s no way GL was town.

Also, this post suggests that if I had freaked out and fought hard to survive that would make me town?? Am I to believe that's the read you'd take from that situation?

I'm not gonna lie I have some past town games where I got all riled up and defensive, but I also can tell when I'm being pushed by scum or when I'm being honestly sorted and no one in the PT was pushing any bullshit - there was really nothing that I could have even emotionally reacted to.

[Bell]

I love no context stuff, please, keep being vague.
I'm not upset, really (but really keep it to yourselves until it benefits town the most).

[GuiltyLion]

I think people are forgetting scum have to earn NKs from successful defuses by players?

it's possible they just didn't have a kill last night if Andres hit on a save