KTaNE [game over!]

[Menalque]

yoink

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if I was going to kill baltar I would just do it in the fucking PT

I wouldn't waste a lim on him

also there was the whole frogster situation

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its really funny that you're blaming me

for not hard shoving baltar

when exactly 0 people supported me in thread or in the PT

for killing Baltar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and again the fact that you wanted to kill Baltar D1 is part of the problem -- you actually had pretty good reasons for it, with the perspective slip stuff, but then the reason why you stopped wanting to kill Baltar and moved away from it was.... all sorts of confused and unclear, and never really something that got a satisfactory explanation before you switched back to killing him

so you're basically blaming me for what

people not believing in my reads?

excellent.

truly amazing stuff there Mena.

[Menalque]

that's not really what I'm saying though

I'm saying your whole trajectory around baltar doesn't really make sense imo -- the initial scum read which seemed well-founded, sure

but after that the ways you went up and down or defended him don't seem to make a lot of sense, especially when you were doing things like saying that he shouldn't be limmed because a lim shouldn't be wasted while simultaneously voting for him to be an expert

I mean all of this is in that spoiler

[Bell]

Kill pooky. It’s clear he has nothing to offer but snark this game.

[Menalque]

for the record: if we lim pooky today and the game doesn't end, I won't even try to suggest that I shouldn't be limmed tomorrow and it would fully be a scumclaim if I did so

you can quote this post and throw it back at me while voting me if I do

I will still try to sort tomorrow if I'm wrong though, but I think the game will end if we lim pooky today

[Bell]

We can kill Mena later if pooky flips town.
But I want pooky out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I do not enjoy forcing my opinion through on things I am not at a very high level of certainty on because I do not enjoy being wrong.

I also like this game to be collaborative.

In fact even when I'm right and I force my opinion through I usually feel somewhat awful about it.

Not a single player at the end of day 1 was voting with me on VPB.

Not a single player in the PT at N1 was supportive of me blowing up VPB(some of what I said to him at the beginning was bluster, I was hoping to demoralize him into anti-spewing if he was actually scum, I was not actually hardset on killing him)

If everyone wants him to live I am not going against all of that shit and blowing him up solo cuz I'll get so much shit if I'm wrong.

I am fine being right and not listened to because either :

(1) I'm actually wrong and it saves me the embarrassment

or

(2) I'm actually right and you all owe me for not listening to me.

[Bell]

Get dead bear.

[Bell]

Fuckin bears’ messin with my vibes man.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but after that the ways you went up and down or defended him don't seem to make a lot of sense, especially when you were doing things like saying that he shouldn't be limmed because a lim shouldn't be wasted while simultaneously voting for him to be an expert

if the scum plan was to make VPB defuse multiple times

they would have to make him an expert to do that.

we can blow him up when he's an expert.

if I was scum with VPB I would just bus him for the cred and pick up the defuses on the way back rather than defend him.

[Dwlee99]

it cannot erase for me that sequence that I just quoted

this is kinda what I meant by an ego thing, btw

not a "you needing to be right on me" thing so much as an inability to look past that just being a bad sequence when you look at me holistically

The issue for me is that when I look at you holistically my brain puts huge weight on that one specific thing as very important. It's a dominating feature

[Dwlee99]

I will review Pooky's progression and if both of you have equally bad progressions etc. then maybe that changes something.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Get dead bear.

I think this is more about me as a person than me as a player

so I will fulfill your request because I no longer find playing in this game enjoyable

VOTE: Pooky

Do not lim Mena the day after me.

actually take the time to play the game out.

I have run out of patience for explaining basic strategy to you guys.

[Dwlee99]

Also I have no clue to find it at this point, but I think it could be worthwhile comparing Mistyx progression on VP in the N2 hood to the progressions of people in the N1 hood.

What Pooky is describing is similar to what I remember of the Mistyx/VP dynamic on N2 but I'd like to verify.

[Dwlee99]

Pooky can you please play the game for the love of god

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was going to actually spend time rereading when I had time after the weekend was over but frankly I find working on the same side as you two just not actually worth my time whatsoever and I no longer care about townside winning this game.

[Menalque]

it cannot erase for me that sequence that I just quoted

this is kinda what I meant by an ego thing, btw

not a "you needing to be right on me" thing so much as an inability to look past that just being a bad sequence when you look at me holistically

The issue for me is that when I look at you holistically my brain puts huge weight on that one specific thing as very important. It's a dominating feature

yeah, okay, I get that too -- I don't think everything should be of equal emphasis when you're taking a holistic view

I wish I could help you to see past the hang up you have on that but I think I've already explained it and I'm not really sure what else I can do? if you want me to try to run through it again I will, but it's really just unfortunate and something I think needs to be overlooked vs everything else instead of something that should lead to all else being dismissed

I will review Pooky's progression and if both of you have equally bad progressions etc. then maybe that changes something.

once again, tis all I can ask of ye

@pooky, we can dance later dude, I need a break so I might go play some video games or read or something

[Bell]

Get dead bear.

I think this is more about me as a person than me as a player

so I will fulfill your request because I no longer find playing in this game enjoyable

VOTE: Pooky

Do not lim Mena the day after me.

actually take the time to play the game out.

I have run out of patience for explaining basic strategy to you guys.

I’m not even going to blink at this.

[Dwlee99]

[Pooky why do you think Menalque is town? Keep in mind that it's likely scum is in the N1 expert group because VP chose to be put in there.

[Bell]

Let’s go.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not going to deal with this bullshit.

Mena/Bell are just being ridiculous and if it takes me flipping town for them to pull their heads out of their asses at this point then it is what it is.

We're probly still winning and it would be a distraction at this point for me to have to fight them for "being right on d1 on VPB and not being listened to"

[Menalque]

I will fulfill your request because I no longer find playing in this game enjoyable

I am sorry about this btw, to the extent that me pushing you is responsible

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Pooky why do you think Menalque is town? Keep in mind that it's likely scum is in the N1 expert group because VP chose to be put in there.

cuz his scum game is p bad and if he was scum he probably would've conceded by now.

he has a divergent playstyle based on alignment - he doesn't try-hard when he's scum.