Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Flavor Leaf]

Acting like I have some overly strong scum read on Nashville.

I feel like I actively stated I wouldn't fade them on Day 1 even.

[Flavor Leaf]

k i don't really think either of you are scum

but i bet we'll spend pages arguing about it

You need to explain if 1977 is FL misinterpreting something or if they are outright lying or trying to fit a square into a round hole or what.

And explain how 2002 and subsequent posts on the topic can come from town

What am I misinterpreting?

Those are MY thoughts. Dunnstral has a huge amount of meta on me, and I don't believe he thought that coming from a town POV. I can see them using that to push me as scum, sure, but it's not like I don't know how Dunnstral plays.

[Well Done]

Acting like I have some overly strong scum read on Nashville.

I'm not actually.

I said you were scumreading people who scumread you and provided evidence to support my argument

All this stuff about the strength of your scumread is your own argument

[Save The Dragons]

You need to explain if 1977 is FL misinterpreting something or if they are outright lying or trying to fit a square into a round hole or what.

this is the post

Thinking about it while cleaning my kitchen, and I think that I probably should not have asked my prior question. Disregard

lol

he's saying you're saying we shouldn't talk about the neighborhood because you said you shouldn't have asked your prior question, which was:

Flavor Leaf, do the hood mechanics make you mod proven not Mafia to 1 group of players, and mod proven not werewolf to another group of players?

at least that's what i'm thinking.

[Save The Dragons]

And explain how 2002 and subsequent posts on the topic can come from town

FL is playing 5d chess on a checkers mat

[NorwegianboyEE]

I never pushed you to reveal a neighborhood, but you will have to explain what you are talking about with what you actually said

That's the reason you did, if you are scum. I guess I could be wrong, and maybe you just didn't think much of it. But you were actively the one to notice, and it feels like you're using weak reasoning because you wanted to get that out of me to be sure because you were still confused.

I am town. Based on how I've been playing, scum are actively going to try to steer me to either misfade someone or stop momentum. This aint my first time at the rodeo. I'm a magnet, and it's one of the best ways I catch scum by bringing them to push me.

This reminds me a lot of FL’s towngame tbf.
Mainly because all i really remember about FL’s towngame is that they say: "Scum want to misfade me" a lot.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dunnstral will have to come in here and vouch for it, of course, since you're in too deep.

You acting like 2002 doesnt make sense is just a straight up twisting of the narrative.

I feel it makes perfect sense. You also actively timestamped yourself trying to prove that a later post than the one I had already done is what got you, when that's just factually incorrect.

Scum look for those exact softs that I did, that was one of my MAIN reasons for posting like that early was to eventually catch someone out. I didn't think it was ever gonna bite, but you coming in right after I pushed Mastina is the kicker.

You were waiting to do that, you had the ammunition, you thought, but your pushes are just built upon incorrect.

The majority of players in this game damn well know I'm a manipulative controlling player by personality, and Dunnstral, someone who's played many games with me over the years, is going to use that of all the things they likely could use to try and push me? No, I believe Lukewarm pushed that thinking it was a good reason, using Dunnstral aggreeance to make it seem better. Dunnstral now will have to come in here acting like he agrees because Well Done is caught.

VOTE: Well Done

I convinced myself you're scummier than Catboi is now, but eh, thats probably because Catboi hasn't been posting much today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Even when it makes no sense.

Especially then actually.

[Well Done]

he's saying you're saying we shouldn't talk about the neighborhood because

And how is that relevant?

[Well Done]

Dunnstral will have to come in here and vouch for it, of course, since you're in too deep.

I am Dunnstral.

[Flavor Leaf]

Acting like I have some overly strong scum read on Nashville.

I'm not actually.

I said you were scumreading people who scumread you and provided evidence to support my argument

All this stuff about the strength of your scumread is your own argument

nashville isn't scum reading me, so it's not evidence that supports you at all.

Mastina's the only one that's been the case for other than now you.

Your entire case is fabricated.

I believe you are coming after me for going after Mastina, and considering that.

[Save The Dragons]

he's saying you're saying we shouldn't talk about the neighborhood because

And how is that relevant?

that's the post he's talking about, not some post from 2018

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor Leaf calls anybody who pushes him scum.

So you, Dunnstral, used this as a reasoning to push me?

Without realizing that this has only happened once this game, with Mastina, a player that essentially calls me scum in any game we've played together besides when I actually was scum that one time, and out of everything, you were going with this + controlling/manipulative?

[Well Done]

Let's go back to the beginning of this Save The Dragons

We said that Flavor Leaf is being manipulative and that makes them more likely to be scum
Flavor Leaf responded that the above is especially concerning coming from us considering a post we made earlier. That post was us talking about the neighborhoods earlier.

How is what Flavor Leaf is saying related to what we were saying, and how is it especially concerning?

[Well Done]

Without realizing that this has only happened once this game,

You immediately swapped your read on us to scum as well. I already discussed Nashville dreams, too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Without realizing that this has only happened once this game,

You immediately swapped your read on us to scum as well. I already discussed Nashville dreams, too.

Swapped my read?

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't believe I ever was town reading you? Maybe for the section, but it's been days since then.

[Save The Dragons]

i dunno i guess he feels like he caught you fishing for info about the neighborhood

that is my interpretation maybe i'm wrong this argument is a little hard to follow i'm trying to play D and D at the same time

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

i even said this earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not convinced this FL/WD fight will be anymore helpful for my reads than it already has.
Well good thing i’m going to sleep.

[Flavor Leaf]

My power tunnel on Well Done if no Miller claim is gone now, btw.

Would be down to do a Not Miller/Miller type thing in the case there is a Scum Miller it forces them to claim it or chance getting rolecop guiltied.

Not Miller, obvi.

but I did say this right after finding out it was random.

[Flavor Leaf]

Menalque being underestimated just gives them the power to come back harder, and being presented at the mountain top is only good for ego, and it sucks for actually playing the game.

When you can't hear the good, you can't hear the bad. best way to play it.

I think Bnuuy, Sword, and Wallflower are all townie. TB is townie. Menalque is townie.

Wallflower/Menalque are my towniest reads, I would say right now.

Wallflower turned me from my initial call out on them real fast.

this was my town list from a while back.
I don't see Well Done anywhere on here, so no clue what they're saying by "Swapped my read" on them.

[MalcolmTucker]

I’m not convinced this FL/WD fight will be anymore helpful for my reads than it already has.
Well good thing i’m going to sleep.

Indeed, feel like we'll wake up to 10 pages in the morning and be none the wiser.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here's the thing, they're right in the sense I'm controlling, but I feel it's clearly in the sense that I'm protecting my town reads. I'm not being 'manipulative' because frankly, I feel like I'm wearing all my thoughts and emotions right on my sleeves.

[Well Done]

i dunno i guess he feels like he caught you fishing for info about the neighborhood

that is my interpretation maybe i'm wrong this argument is a little hard to follow i'm trying to play D and D at the same time

Sorry but "I don't know what is going on" isn't good enough anymore when you're actively taking an opposite stance from us. If you want to sit back and do nothing I really don't care, but if you're going to say that Flavor Leaf is town then yeah I expect you to be able to explain why and how. Or even what they're doing. You don't know what they're doing but you have an unshakeable town read on them for unexplained reasons.