Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You | Endgame

[Vasex]

chepside, could you please stop voting somnus? i don't think anybody of you two is a scum

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vasex, you almost have the game figured out on page 7.

I'm impressed.

[Vasex]

i did it on the second, but i still don't know how is with you

my townreads: somnus, cheapside, bosco, maybe bella, rad
some of them are not very townie, but i don't want to elim them

[Vasex]

i still don't know how is with you

who is with you

[Spartan117]

I get a feeling of truthfulness on Somnus's scumhunting pressing on Vasex, one thing Somnus would struggle with being his first townie game is to find legitimate reads.
As scum it doesnt matter if your reads dont actually result in an elim its more about deception and shifting blame or attention elsewhere away from the scum team, town can miselim someone so long as scum keep the attention off themselves.
So when we are town our reads matter more and is then on everyone else to try and distinguish whos reads are trying to scumhunt and whos are casting a shroud or push attention elsewhere.
This is partly why I feel it is more townie to not care if you are scumread and play to get reactions and get reads from people even if it results in you being eliminated because that gives town more to work with Day 2 rather than flat stagnant Day 1 with no leads for Day 2.

Personally I am town leaning Somnus, Vasex and Cheapside.

I am mostly null on the other slots need to spend more time analysing Bella and Toffees posts, I dont see how there is enough to get much of a read from Bosco, Whiskey and Cheapside although I liked Cheapsides posts. I felt a townie lean on Italiano but im not so sure on his replacement Toffee

Currently I am happy to put my vote on VOTE: Rad

[Rad]

Good morning! Hooray, look at that, we have activity.

Day One's are boring though and I'd like to speed the process up.

Is there anything interesting in the 5 pages that you think I should read?

So this guy comes in first thing, uninterested in reading a meager 5 pages to catch up, tries to get a wagon vote going with the basis of "nothing else to do day 1", lays a vote on Somnus because he "respects his scum game" of which the guy's had a whole 2 wins and 1 loss... and in the process paints himself as scum. I was already leaning scum on Italiano, who he's replacing.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

More worried about rad, tbh. I flip from massively town reading them one post to having to check it's still the same slot next post as I find it so odd.

Curious which post flipped your opinion on me. You're a town read to me currently, so I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this.

I'd like to see some more feedback from mq.bosco. Ideally more useful than her last posts. I know you want to lurk mq.bosco (as a self proclaimed "lazy poster") but I don't think that's very helpful to town. There's plenty of content now to react to.

[Cheapside]

Spoiler: replies to Rad

Wake up town. Low activity is generally bad for town. Scum wants to lurk. It's hard for scum to create pro-town conversation and avoid scum slips.

Some questions for people:

1. Do you agree that low activity is bad for town?
2. What general time per day can we expect your input?
3. Who do you think has the most relevant input so far? How about the least relevant input?

1. Yes, although overly high activity can completely destroy town's will to play or ability to scumhunt constructively, so I'm ok with this level.
2. 8am GMT - 2am GMT, sporadically.
3. Relevant to the game? Somnus, easily. He said he thought we should elim someone, and that it was strange that we didn't.

chepside, could you please stop voting somnus? i don't think anybody of you two is a scum

Fair enough, I have what I wanted from the Somnus interaction, and he's mostly calmed down about it.
UNVOTE: Somnus

Time to go through the players briefly.

Spoiler: mostly undeveloped reads

Somnus

: Honestly confusing. Guess I'd better look through their scum games at some point. In some ways I'd expect weirder takes from Town!Somnus than Scum!Somnus. Irritation seems genuine.

Bellaphant

: active, worked through the Vasex thing, tried to calm things down, stop anything exploding D1. Probably town unless scum with Somnus or very keen on eliminating a strong town player.

Vasex

: meming but active, helped create content. Also townread me rapidly, so definitely town.

Rad

: Dubious, lots of fluff with little commitment - weak general or uninteresting questions, calls to town to post more, kinda nothingy posts like 100, 98, 95. I'm leaning scum. Okay, his last post was a commitment, it was a vote on blue and a weak attack on mq. The other way around might have been

something

, but...

Italiano/BlueBlooded

: Not sure. Italiano pointing out that nobody picked up on his joking scumclaim... weird. Odd try for townie-points? Blue agressively pushing for a wagon, feels like a strong vet, won't be easily read D1.

mqbosco

: she hasn't been around a great deal. Interactions have involved noncomittal townreads. Without more posts to actually base an analysis on,

I would actively seek the elimination here

. I've seen scum lurk to a win before, it's not a fun time.

whiskydelta

: has... four posts? Haven't found a way to filter the thread for their posts. Hasn't done much. Would be my policy elimination if we didn't have less from mqbosco. Need to see more.

Jackal/Spartan

: Obviously jackal doesn't exist. Spartan hasn't had time for much yet but I like his posting style. Odd that he feels the need to monologue on what's happening, but hey, maybe that's just how he gets his thoughts together. Townlean on the newer players, esp. me, a bit suspect. It's not like I'm going to just do what he likes because he townread me. Aaaaanyway,

VOTE: Rad.

[Rad]

What is your opinion of your scum-game, Somnus?

Generally cautious Day 1 because losing 1 of the 2 maf in a 9'er on Day 1 is an absolute disaster. Usually open up more as the game progresses. I dunno. Exciting but stressful.

I will say that even though I have a slight scum read on you, your sort of reckless activity was the thing making you just suspicious to me instead of a straight out vote. So it's nice to hear you explain what I thought I could be seeing. That said, another explanation is you're tired of being mafia and in order to avoid the stress, you're just going to yolo this game.

Coming out of your last game as scum, before you got your role for this game, how were you planning on approaching this game if you drew scum again? I remember pulling mafia a few games in a row back in the day and remember this thought weighing heavily on my mind when deciding if i wanted to even join another game or give it a break for a while.

[whiskey delta]

I’ll dig into this game later tonight and over the weekend. Other stuff has higher priority right now

[Bellaphant]

@rad, I said most of what I wanted to say in response to bbt about you ; I like your longer, content posts but your 'wake up town' and trying to extend rqs feels really pointless and 'look at me, I'm so town' (lamist).

[Rad]

Rad

: Dubious, lots of fluff with little commitment - weak general or uninteresting questions, calls to town to post more, kinda nothingy posts like 100, 98, 95. I'm leaning scum. Okay, his last post was a commitment, it was a vote on blue and a weak attack on mq. The other way around might have been

something

, but...

I'd like to respond to your assessment of me directly.

My posts and reasons:
100 - I was curious what his response would be. Aren't you? I mean, if someone jumped on him for his obvious joke, how would you read that? I would read it null. So what was his goal? I was trying to get him to explain it openly which would be good content IMO (particularly because I don't think there could have been a good explanation, making his whole plan obvious nonsense fluff trying to look useful).

98 - I felt his list had no real use beyond getting people to talk, which isn't necessarily scummy considering we were at the start of day 1, but explaining more about why he chose those questions in particular could create content. It's very difficult for scum to explain something like that in my experience.

95 - Again, I'm trying to get him to explain why no one jumping on him even matters. Someone jumping on him for that isn't a scum tell, so what's his point? I wanted him to spell it out so we can understand him better.

I have a null read on you right now, though this assessment post is better than your first, where I felt you were just summarizing events (an easy way to look useful). I'm going to have to read it a few times over the course of the day so I can better understand your thoughts on everyone else, but I wanted to get a response about your thoughts of me out there sooner than later.

[Rad]

@rad, I said most of what I wanted to say in response to bbt about you ; I like your longer, content posts but your 'wake up town' and trying to extend rqs feels really pointless and 'look at me, I'm so town' (lamist).

Fair. Scum can do that too, for sure. I did try to get the activity ball rolling though with my questions about when people can be expected to be more active, and trying to get everyone to agree that lurker town is dead town. Maybe I jumped the gun and lurking wasn't really going to be a big issue here, but I had just seen 12 hours pass with nothing happening at all, and our most active poster (somnus) was taking a 24 hour break for the sake of us talking about something else besides him and vasex (not helpful imo, just reinforces lurker town). Looks like most of the activity might end up happening while I'm sleeping

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Rad

You used the other slash.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know what I did wrong... It's been a while...

[Rad]

ok, mq.bosco is townie

How are you getting this read? She has posted very little and her posts read null to me.

[Rad]

I don't know what I did wrong... It's been a while...

Spell out vote instead of just v

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Pretty sure I only used v before, not sure what's happened.

Will let Mod sort it. I just voted for you, though.

[Rad]

Pretty sure I only used v before, not sure what's happened.

Will let Mod sort it. I just voted for you, though.

Yes, I know you did You should probably explain why, but hey, that's your call, scum

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You voted for me.

So I voted you back.

Plus, I like wagons.

[Rad]

You voted for me.

So I voted you back.

Plus, I like wagons.

At least you're consistent

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Rad

You used the other slash.

My bad haha.

Mod, can we get a VC on next page please?

[Vasex]

ok, mq.bosco is townie

How are you getting this read? She has posted very little and her posts read null to me.

yeah it is difficult with her in every game
but she scumreads italiano a bit, and he votes her and he is lying that they are together in one PT, so I guess he is just scum, and she is not

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Aw man, the above is a really bad post.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If someone with more town cred than myself could explain why, I would be eternally grateful.

[Vasex]

you are rather nervous that i sr you, aren't you?