Newbie 2096 | Nathan For You | Endgame

[Bellaphant]

Like, gun to head even though I think the timing of you both being on me, after three slots (including Spartan) went for bbt at the same time is suspect, you both being scum just feels very convenient. He's scummier than you, so why is he repeating your words?

[Bellaphant]

Saying, 'rad and Spartan both decided in a scum PT that this was a brilliant way to make people scum read a slot and then both decided to use it within 24 hours of each other' is really silly. But it still flags me as super weird.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Bella, has your read on Rad progressed much from 159?

A lot of the more recent stuff feels like OMGUS? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Bellaphant]

Them to me? Or me to them?

[Bellaphant]

Ike, I definitely feel their weird 180 on me was prompted by the fact that my read wobbled on them, but then it feels weird for a towny to go fron that to basically shitting on my content and dismissing all of it/taking the worst version of what I said?

But their interactions with you look much better.

So I'm back to where I was which is confused. And when I've reached out I don't feel their responses were in good faith, bit maybe it's a tone thing: sonmus clearly felt I did similar to them when that wasn't my intention at all.

The question about the repeated language feels more genuine.

[Bellaphant]

Plus the repeated word thing is just ...well, see the post above yours.

This is a lot of words for shrug (look, my post is useless again rad!)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Them to me? Or me to them?

Your read on them. I see you speaking about it a little bit on the past few pages but a lot of it feels like OMGUS. Just asking if you could reevaluate the read and see if you still feel the same?

[Bellaphant]

Did my responsses help? My first few posts after their granular read back would've been similar who ever it was about

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, I think so.

We need something from mq before day ends but I'm pretty happy going into Day Two with my current reads.

[Vasex]

guys, you are awesome, im starting to read about russian hackers here
maybe again from page one
i almost forgot first impressions, but this is ok

im not sure that bosco will return, she is dissappeared not only from this game

[Vasex]

i definitely play this day with somnus. if he is mafia 4th time in row, it... still worth it - we should support this poor cursed guy with everything we can

VOTE: Vasex

VOTE: Vasex

god dam what have i done wrong!

Ngl: easiest vote of my short town-life.

i laugh my ass off every time i read this
everybody who cannot see here two townies - is not human

[Vasex]

Come on man, I was gonna claim scum and now I have to lie about being town!

one of the most scummy posts of italiano
too showy
he is trying to show how brave he is, crazy and free like townie, but i feel the smell of fear behind these words

it is in fact claiming a scum on the second page, why a simple townie does smth like that? no reason, just to pretent being townie, there are no other reason
and he is telling this directly to me maybe hoping that such kind of humor is townie for me, but it's not

[Rad]

Ok Bella. Regarding me and Spartan using a similar argument - here are 4 scenarios to think on.

1. A scum!Spartan thought what town!Rad wrote about him originally (more content in his 7 posts than in Bella's 23) in 220 was worth reusing, but with BBT's numbers vs Cheap's instead. That would be scum trying to act townie.

2. A town!Spartan thought it was a good point and genuinely noticed something similar with BBT.

3. A scum team scum!Spartan + scum!Rad does that ridiculous scenario you agree is ridiculous.

4. A scum!Rad and a town!Spartan is just a townie being convinced that my scum tell logic is good.

So what scenarios is this actually suspicious/weird?

1. suspicious
2. not suspicious
3. suspicious
4. not suspicious

So can we agree that 2 of the scenarios are suspicious and 2 are not? #3 we agree is absolutely ridiculous. If you want to run with that theory, go for it, but it's as you said, really silly, and I get the impression you don't believe it.

So we're down to #1. I'm town in that scenario. Is that the one you think is most likely? If not, it would mean you believe #2 or #4 are more likely and both of those are town!Spartan.

So am I scum or is Spartan scum Bella? I guess there's a 5th scenario:

scum!Rad and scum!Spartan just coincidentally used this same type of argument, and reusing the argument itself was absolutely meaningless.

I'll try to be active again tonight. Will be out and about with the wife for the rest of the day.

I'll UNVOTE: because no one seems to be sold on Bella scum even with my writeup on him. I'll consider voting for Spartan later when I can really sit down and read all his stuff again. Maybe do a full analysis of him later like I did with bella and vasex. Hopefully mq starts playing or gets replaced with someone who will so we don't have to waste a policy vote on a potential town.

[Vasex]

italiano, everybody thinks you are mafia because of "Italy" in your nickname

Italy is not in my nickname. Ali is though.

he is trying to have the same mood as me and others, making jokes, but this is hard art to be a comedian, when you are mafia scum
jokes are rather strained (not sure that i've translated this word correctly, but maybe you've get it)

i also didnt like the first post (questions) of Italiano, it looked like he saw firsts big posts of other people (which are not bad) and tried to make smth like that fastly;
though i need to say, that i also wanted to ask a question to everybody about experience. it is useful. so i did it there

[Vasex]

A mafia win is way more satisfying than a town win though!

btw most people don't agree with that. strange. but it is null here

[Vasex]

I enjoy town better. Town is more fun

especially after these words. maybe even not null... eh...

[Vasex]

but they're definitely my top scumread right now.

this was like a cold shower for me when i've read this (this is about somnus; vasex, italiano and wd called him town before that)
because i considered cheap was town for his first post, and then we've got this
though it is kinda townie thing not to agree with everybody else bravely, playing against other opinions
so still town yeah

[Vasex]

may i not read posts of somnus anymore? he is town, lets close this topic forever.

[Vasex]

more and more i read bella
more and more i like him
but i hate when i cannot explain myself why
he is just talking so free and easy, and so much, this is so good
but this is a bad argument in further game, i need to find smth more later

[Bellaphant]

@ rad, I'm starting to think I'm just not making my thoughts explicit enough for you? 325 definitely suggests I'm leaning interpretation one. I think it's a bit odd you aren't acknowledging that it is a weird occurance though: I'd notice it if someone did it to me, like I've noticed bbt sheeping both of my votes.

P-edit tbf when people town or scum read me it often just comes down to 'vibes'. I think I'm not in your face enough for some people.

[Vasex]

Who has said anything about vasex being "too scummy to be scum"? Did I miss that?

i guess he was talking about Cheap, who said immediately, that i'm obv town

[whiskey delta]

Someone finally jumps on Italiano’s joke and he’s not even here to do anything about it.

Shame

[Vasex]

rad and wd are doing some unneccessary activity, too much empty noise (i'm on page 4 and quite tired bc of them)
fake activity? will see

[whiskey delta]

Vasex could you please get a pfp? Same for Rad. Having something visual to reference your posts to will help keep people from getting mixed up. People being me mostly

[humaneatingmonkey]

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