Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.13

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [5]:

Dwlee99, Titus, implosion, Roden, Aristeia

MathBlade [3]:

Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, Harley Quinn

Aristeia [2]:

humaneatingmonkey, Enchant

Dwlee99 [2]:

Ausuka, MathBlade

Not Voting [2]:

Bellaphant, Wallflower

mod notes

~ humaneatingmonkey v/la wednesday to friday.
~ Gamma Emerald v/la for a week.
~ dual mod iso.
~ this is mod note.

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[MathBlade]

Since I can’t explain why HEM is town I will use scum’s selfish desires in order to prove it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am actually using this to prove HEM town.

If people actually believed I was scum with HEM they’d all still be voting HEM like Ari says

Since I can’t explain it with words then I can explain it by using people’s wagon movements

???

[MathBlade]

vote count 1.13

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [5]:

Dwlee99, Titus, implosion, Roden, Aristeia

MathBlade [3]:

Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, Harley Quinn

Aristeia [2]:

humaneatingmonkey, Enchant

Dwlee99 [2]:

Ausuka, MathBlade

Not Voting [2]:

Bellaphant, Wallflower

mod notes

~ humaneatingmonkey v/la wednesday to friday.
~ Gamma Emerald v/la for a week.
~ dual mod iso.
~ this is mod note.

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Look at the VC.

Gamma Harley and StD all supposedly scumread HEM

That’s enough for majority.

Titus is debating moving off to me because she smells I am the bigger miselim but wants to be sure she can get me. Dwlee hasn’t posted anything close to content in a long while because he’s caught as fuck.

[MathBlade]

Opinion on math/Titus?

I have uhh been putting off making up my mind about those two. With both of them, I'm conflicted.

Titus has a few posts that are interpreting other players' behaviour in a fairly reachy way and stating it as fact, which on the surface feels sort of manipulative, but I'd maybe lean towards it being town just stating what they think and not really seeing reason to doubt it. Examples are Post 946 ("Roden still has no drive to solve"), Post 989 ("Dwlee tries to have an impact" - especially bizarre tbh) and particularly Post 1095 about Enchant, which I still don't really understand as what Enchant was saying.
I'm also still deciding on what I think of the accusations of "shopping" whenever people are considering votes other than HEM.

I think at one point during my read-through I was feeling more confident in Mathblade being scum, and I don't remember exactly why I softened on that (it's been... a day). , but I think it might have been partly because reading through put the approach to HEM a bit more into context for me. Maybe it's HEM's recent absence but I felt that feeling of it being sort of inevitable too. It's hard to explain.
And right now I'm staring at Post 1148 and I want to townread it because it resonates hard but it's also an easy post to make as scum and if mathlade is aware of his moonlogicky meta then that would make sense of the awkwardly obstinate posting that had me so concerned to begin with.

I guess that probably gives the best idea of where I'm at with them right now? Hopefully it will become clearer now that I'm actually in the game, rather than trying to quickly read through.

Wallflower not on HEM debates moving to me

Your scum are in those who are debating to move to me without explaining their reasons for doing so while also debating HEM while HEM is the bigger wagon

[MathBlade]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

[MathBlade]

vote count 1.13

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [5]:

Dwlee99, Titus, implosion, Roden, Aristeia

MathBlade [3]:

Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, Harley Quinn

Aristeia [2]:

humaneatingmonkey, Enchant

Dwlee99 [2]:

Ausuka, MathBlade

Not Voting [2]:

Bellaphant, Wallflower

mod notes

~ humaneatingmonkey v/la wednesday to friday.
~ Gamma Emerald v/la for a week.
~ dual mod iso.
~ this is mod note.

flavour

Look at the VC.

Gamma Harley and StD all supposedly scumread HEM

That’s enough for majority.

Titus is debating moving off to me because she smells I am the bigger miselim but wants to be sure she can get me. Dwlee hasn’t posted anything close to content in a long while because he’s caught as fuck.

They’re* my bad

[Harley Quinn]

I am actually using this to prove HEM town.

If people actually believed I was scum with HEM they’d all still be voting HEM like Ari says

Since I can’t explain it with words then I can explain it by using people’s wagon movements

I’m voting you because you’re objectively scummier and the main reason I think HEM is likely scum is associatives with YOU.

I’m like 99.99999% sure you’re flipping scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

Or you’re both scum

[Enchant]

I am bored, can we end game already?

[MathBlade]

Incorrect

If I was scum I bus HEM here hard.

Evidence is in the recent game I was scum with HEM with

But you didn’t bother to read the Instructor Rean game either or you’d see this is different.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am bored, can we end game already?

No.

[MathBlade]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

Or you’re both scum

Also already addressed in why don’t you want to vote HEM?

You’d “prove” me scum (logically impossible) as I am town

[Gamma Emerald]

More confident you’re scum than HEM

[MathBlade]

Lol that’s a shitty excuse and you know it.

You never once wanted to vote HEM and I don’t buy it for a second you scumread HEM

[MathBlade]

You’ve never voted HEM I checked the VCs

[Aristeia]

I am bored, can we end game already?

i dont mind if your scumteam surrenders

[Harley Quinn]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

Or you’re both scum

Extremely likely but Math is flaming obvscum. To those of you doubting this look at his reasoning for pretty much any of his reads: Ausuka scum (before she got lured to the dark side) for being “nice”. Gamma because Mat couldn’t find town!Gamma early enough despite calling them both t/t, rofl and look at his STD progressiin. He went from apparently trying to wagon him to seconds later locktowning him right after STD claimed to want to gladiate him but Math had some secret mysterious reason (that would rival the Caramilk secret) for that 180 which he won’t reveal to us. I could go on and on.

[Harley Quinn]

More confident you’re scum than HEM

I literally bet the game on it.

[MathBlade]

convince one person your mech interpretation is right and my mech interpretation is wrong and I will continue this conversation with you. Otherwise I am just going to assume you are wrong and wasting my time.

I think you both raise valid points
your argument makes sense because Bee in the last run I was in had top pick as scum and we voted her out D5 (I think) because she hadn't been killed yet despite her ascetic cop claim

forgot the other part of this
I think mathblade's question of whether this would extend to any other early picks does make sense, just as a general question. Why does ONLY the top picker get expect to get killed?

You’re admitting I have valid rational points but yet now I am all of a sudden scum because I don’t tr you

Shocker.

Why haven’t you voted in a long damn time?

[MathBlade]

More confident you’re scum than HEM

I literally bet the game on it.

Still doesn’t vote me

[Harley Quinn]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

Or you’re both scum

Also already addressed in why don’t you want to vote HEM?

You’d “prove” me scum (logically impossible) as I am town

No.

[MathBlade]

Oh you finally did my bad you’re still being bad

[Harley Quinn]

More confident you’re scum than HEM

I literally bet the game on it.

Still doesn’t vote me

I did vote you.

[MathBlade]

Those who genuinely think HEM is scum would want to stay on HEM scum. They wouldn’t destroy one wagon to move to a maybe wagon where some people townread me.

Ergo HEM is town and I am town

Restart RVS if you have to.

Or you’re both scum

Also already addressed in why don’t you want to vote HEM?

You’d “prove” me scum (logically impossible) as I am town

No.

Yep

You scumread HEM yet won’t vote him

You don’t want the egg on your face when HEM flips town