Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[clidd]

The moon hangs above the town. It's symbolic.

Yep, that too.

[Crescent]

In the case of Gera it was more about someone like Goldfish ignoring that I wasn't even the first person to bring up past games of his. I wasn't being sussed for it, but the very origin of the argument was being ignored.

It's just infuriatingly lazy play coming from that slot overall.

[Crescent]

The thing is I feel like it's so openly lazy this game that scum would be reluctant about how obvious it looks. It's why I don't find it scummy. The slot is being so openly useless it makes me think it's town.

[Crescent]

Also the good news for everyone is if for some reason I don't get shot tonight I'm most likely getting my return to work papers on Tuesday so I can both stop going stir crazy and won't have the time to OCD this level.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Oh wow there are so many new pages,
I'm trying to catch up, sorry for inactivity, updates coming in a few minutes after I read through everything.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

This whole Jester thing honestly just feels like a red herring of a discussion topic.

Yes, 100% true, you can't have a jester in a normal game, and Not_Mafia always starts with that post, the jester discussion is pretty much irrelevant.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

In the case of Gera it was more about someone like Goldfish ignoring that I wasn't even the first person to bring up past games of his. I wasn't being sussed for it, but the very origin of the argument was being ignored.

It's just infuriatingly lazy play coming from that slot overall.

The thing is I feel like it's so openly lazy this game that scum would be reluctant about how obvious it looks. It's why I don't find it scummy. The slot is being so openly useless it makes me think it's town.

I'm not trying to be lazy, I do actually care about this game. I know I haven't contributed as much and I'm sorry about that.

I did't ignore the fact that you weren't the first person to bring up Gera's meta, I don't have an inherent problem with using meta, it can be very useful. But the sheer volume of meta analysis coming from you, and the fact that a lot of it seemed unhelpful, was what I had a problem with.

[Crescent]

This whole Jester thing honestly just feels like a red herring of a discussion topic.

Yes, 100% true, you can't have a jester in a normal game, and Not_Mafia always starts with that post, the jester discussion is pretty much irrelevant.

This isn't the problem though.

The problem is Corwin was making this the lynchpin (This is an actual nonoffensive word that fits the sentence) of his "argument" against Vivax, learning it wasn't a good argument against a new player, and then still voting him anyway. I also feel like this only really escalated after Vivax redoubled his efforts to pursue Corwin.

This led to even more Jester talk, and that's when I decided it was probably about time to put the topic on ice.

[Crescent]

This whole Jester thing honestly just feels like a red herring of a discussion topic.

Yes, 100% true, you can't have a jester in a normal game, and Not_Mafia always starts with that post, the jester discussion is pretty much irrelevant.

This isn't the problem though.

The problem is Corwin was making this the lynchpin (This is an actual nonoffensive word that fits the sentence) of his "argument" against Vivax, learning it wasn't a good argument against a new player, and then still voting him anyway. I also feel like this only really escalated after Vivax redoubled his efforts to pursue Corwin.

This led to even more Jester talk, and that's when I decided it was probably about time to put the topic on ice.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

This whole Jester thing honestly just feels like a red herring of a discussion topic.

Yes, 100% true, you can't have a jester in a normal game, and Not_Mafia always starts with that post, the jester discussion is pretty much irrelevant.

The problem is Corwin was making this the lynchpin (This is an actual nonoffensive word that fits the sentence) of his "argument" against Vivax, learning it wasn't a good argument against a new player, and then still voting him anyway. I also feel like this only really escalated after Vivax redoubled his efforts to pursue Corwin.

This led to even more Jester talk, and that's when I decided it was probably about time to put the topic on ice.

That's true,
I sent the above before I read the pages before, I started reading backwards (then realised that was a bad way of doing it because I didn't know what was going on)

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Unofficial vote count,
because I completely lost track of the vote reading through that so I think it might be helpful.

Corwinoid (3): UNOwen, Vivax, Crescent
UNOwen (2): clidd, Elsa Jay
GeorgeBailey (2): Not_Mafia, Eiralox
geraintm (1):, GeorgeBailey
Elsa Jay (1): gibus
Not_Mafia (1): GoldfishFromTheMoon
Crescent (1): geraintm
Vivax (1): Corwinoid

Not voting (1):, Alexcellent

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.4

Corwinoid (3):

UNOwen, Vivax, Crescent

UNOwen (2):

clidd, Elsa Jay

GeorgeBailey (2):

Not_Mafia, Eiralox

Not_Mafia (1):

GoldfishFromTheMoon

geraintm (1):

GeorgeBailey

Elsa Jay (1):

gibus

Crescent (1):

geraintm

Vivax (1):

Corwinoid

Not voting (1):

Alexcellent

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-12 13:13:00)

Notes:

• In the interest of getting this up quickly I sort of skimmed, so it's possible I missed some votes. Please verify that I have your vote in the right place.

[Elsa Jay]

How in the world did we STILL end up with 8 different people with votes on them. 9 if you count not voting as a separate person.

Guys we gotta consolidate now.

Do we at least got 3 people who are definitely in the running or are we gonna do my Lurker strategy?

The lowest person that isnt our mod is... NotMaf at nine damn posts. Okay. That's a problem. The three way tie of George, Gibus, and Owen are at 18. Literally double that.

Sidenote: Crescent is 100 posts above Eira who's at 92... Double everyone elsa's posts as well. You can fit 21 NotMafs in that.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt but without even hitting 10 posts he's definitely just lurking to not play this game. So if we do elim him I'm not gonna regret it. Let's see what happens tho.

[Crescent]

No, it's worse. It's so much worse.

Won't say who yet but reading the last four pages made 2 people move up in my town list and 1 down. I'm here to interact all day as well.

Where is Corwin on your list and why?

I really want to know what your fascination with me is. Since your RVS vote you haven't even looked anywhere else or engaged meaningfully with any other slot in the game. Seriously, what's going on here?

VOTE: UNOwen

Scummy post.

UNVOTE: GeorgeBailey
VOTE: Corwinoid

Corwin does not mention Vivax in any capacity the entire game until after Vivax votes him. Corwin's first post after Vivax votes him is to immediately shade Vivax.

Is there really a chance he's jester?

I have read this half a dozen times now while re-reading and updating notes... and every time it just sticks out like a fucking sore thumb. Why in the world would you think/suggest this?

The word Jester NEVER appears in Corwin's ISO until this post. I immediately called this out at the time, but it's even more glaring in the lens that this was strictly done as his counterargument. This was Corwin trying to find any excuse to vote Vivax for voting him, finding the excuse lacking, and doing it anyway.

Good lord Corwin is scum.

[Crescent]

How in the world did we STILL end up with 8 different people with votes on them. 9 if you count not voting as a separate person.

Guys we gotta consolidate now.

Do we at least got 3 people who are definitely in the running or are we gonna do my Lurker strategy?

The lowest person that isnt our mod is... NotMaf at nine damn posts. Okay. That's a problem. The three way tie of George, Gibus, and Owen are at 18. Literally double that.

Sidenote: Crescent is 100 posts above Eira who's at 92... Double everyone elsa's posts as well. You can fit 21 NotMafs in that.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt but without even hitting 10 posts he's definitely just lurking to not play this game. So if we do elim him I'm not gonna regret it. Let's see what happens tho.

We are voting out Corwin. Corwin is scum. Not probably scum. Corwin is scum.

Everything I've said about Corwin having no town inflection in the last couple of pages is made so much worse by it being directly after Vivax voted him, and counterargument being off one thing Vivax posted 200 posts before that Corwin had zero reaction to at the time.

[Crescent]

Clarification: What I specifically immediately called out was basing his argument over a 200 post old post that I felt was irrelevant and a weak argument to be pursuing.

I didn't notice at the time it was the first time he'd ever mentioned Jester. The way I worded the bottom half of 638 doesn't flow quite right, though the point it makes doesn't change.

[Crescent]

Clarification: What I specifically immediately called out was basing his argument over a 200 post old post that I felt was irrelevant and a weak argument to be pursuing.

I didn't notice at the time it was the first time he'd ever mentioned Jester. The way I worded the bottom half of 638 doesn't flow quite right, though the point it makes doesn't change.

[Crescent]

Ok, I didn't have anywhere NEAR this issue with double-posting in 2272. The hell am I doing differently this time?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Ok, I didn't have anywhere NEAR this issue with double-posting in 2272. The hell am I doing differently this time?

I've been told you're more likely to double post if you have a problematic internet connection, or if you are on mobile, and I've found this is true.

[gibus]

VOTE: Corwinoid

[Crescent]

Timeline:

#424 Vivax revotes him

#470 is when he directly mentions Corwin again in a more meta capacity

#477 is when Corwin pops in to directly countersuspect Vivax

#486 Corwin asks me a useless question

#492 I say exactly what vibes I'm getting from Corwin. Corwin ignores this.

#500 Vivax asks him a question

#510 Corwin refuses to answer it

#512 Vivax calls him out on it

#514 Corwin gets defensive

#517 I say Corwin feels like scum who doesn't understand why he's been caught. Corwin again ignores this.

#519 Vivax calls him out again

#525 I verify a specific reason I suspect him. Again this is never addressed.

Both are gone for a bit

#542 Corwin brings the Jester point out of the blue to attack Vivax.

#574, 578, 580 Vivax is unimpressed. I have posts in there too. I'm not impressed either, though I also have some off-topic posts.

#588 doubles down

#590 triples down

#594 admits he could be wrong

#595 votes

#611 tells Elsa "I'll vote whoever you want me to"

Not town. Not town progression. Not at all.

[Crescent]

Timeline:

#424 Vivax revotes him

#470 is when he directly mentions Corwin again in a more meta capacity

#477 is when Corwin pops in to directly countersuspect Vivax

#486 Corwin asks me a useless question

#492 I say exactly what vibes I'm getting from Corwin. Corwin ignores this.

#500 Vivax asks him a question

#510 Corwin refuses to answer it

#512 Vivax calls him out on it

#514 Corwin gets defensive

#517 I say Corwin feels like scum who doesn't understand why he's been caught. Corwin again ignores this.

#519 Vivax calls him out again

#525 I verify a specific reason I suspect him. Again this is never addressed.

Both are gone for a bit

#542 Corwin brings the Jester point out of the blue to attack Vivax.

#574, 578, 580 Vivax is unimpressed. I have posts in there too. I'm not impressed either, though I also have some off-topic posts.

#588 doubles down

#590 triples down

#594 admits he could be wrong

#595 votes

#611 tells Elsa "I'll vote whoever you want me to"

Not town. Not town progression. Not at all.

[Alexcellent]

Going to get caught up, sorry for lack of postings in last few days
Gut has been going more towards an Owen vote tbh but I'll take a look at this case on Corwin. Have been feeling like he's town though.

[Crescent]

Oh and Vivax is a virtual lock for town once Corwin flips scum, if that wasn't obvious enough.

[Crescent]

Going to get caught up, sorry for lack of postings in last few days
Gut has been going more towards an Owen vote tbh but I'll take a look at this case on Corwin. Have been feeling like he's town though.

This is what happens when I put a

real

vote down <3