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[Save The Dragons]

i feel like i've barely expressed why i'm voting you, why do you feel like i'm not scum piling on you

[MathBlade]

First mistake => instantly voting me without reasoning
Second mistake => Coming up with a generic barebones reason for scumreading me without elaborating

VOTE: Ausuka

Do you want to make it three?

[MathBlade]

i feel like i've barely expressed why i'm voting you, why do you feel like i'm not scum piling on you

It’s antitown to answer that question.

Let’s just say you put first things first when at the bottom of things and I think you did here.

[Save The Dragons]

i dunno what that means

[Aristeia]

he doesnt want to explain to you why he's townreading you because he thinks its a super sekrit tell that only he knows so if he told you then other scum could emulate it and then it would be useless

[Aristeia]

also does it make sense for Enchant to give us a hypo-cop result?

like hypothetically if he is ascetic cop, his investigation result last night is ____

[Ausuka]

Fundamentally I don't think I could get enough insight into the game to call out every potential agenda scum could have. What I can do is look at posts that don't look like real town thoughts and think, they must be something else. If you think I'd be better off reads wise sheeping someone else who can do that, that's fair I guess but I don't see how anyone is meant to read me if I do that.

If you're asking me to speculate - seems like the most likely version of events is that scum Math is trying to just play and imitate town Math, and so tries to construct reads the best he can, but since he's scum and informed it's not quite the same and he makes an overly reachy read.

Re: why I'm scumreading you; we had that whole thing where you scumread me for being nice about something not game related, I called it out as seeming not genuine and asked you to expand on it, you said Gamma and Titus would back you up on reading people that way, and then Gamma proceeded to not do that and Titus is hard scumreading you? Also - you had that whole thing where you were playing with the idea of policy limming HEM after voting him while not changing your read, which gave me Bad Vibes

[Aristeia]

Fundamentally I don't think I could get enough insight into the game to call out every potential agenda scum could have. What I can do is look at posts that don't look like real town thoughts and think, they must be something else. If you think I'd be better off reads wise sheeping someone else who can do that, that's fair I guess but I don't see how anyone is meant to read me if I do that.

that's fair but I feel like what you're scumreading math for is that he doesn't think in a normal way and that's just how he is

[MathBlade]

he doesnt want to explain to you why he's townreading you because he thinks its a super sekrit tell that only he knows so if he told you then other scum could emulate it and then it would be useless

Or some other pewson or something like that. I agree I don’t want to tell scum why I tr you.

[MathBlade]

Reason wow my phone you suck

[MathBlade]

Fundamentally I don't think I could get enough insight into the game to call out every potential agenda scum could have. What I can do is look at posts that don't look like real town thoughts and think, they must be something else. If you think I'd be better off reads wise sheeping someone else who can do that, that's fair I guess but I don't see how anyone is meant to read me if I do that.

that's fair but I feel like what you're scumreading math for is that he doesn't think in a normal way and that's just how he is

I think they’re trying to back pedal and make things work versus a genuine read as they’re mentioning things out of order

They said I am possible town after all that

And are now walking it back to say “Look no no I really scumread you”

It feels very wrong

[MathBlade]

also does it make sense for Enchant to give us a hypo-cop result?

like hypothetically if he is ascetic cop, his investigation result last night is ____

I agree

I will give him cover even though I am not a cop
Everyone should do this.

If I am a cop my check was on StD

[Ausuka]

As for Dwlee, you and Titus have opposing reads on them but I don't really understand why? I feel like that's something you can dig into here and feels really important for understanding the game state.

I like this from Roden I think? It feels like a good faith attempt to help a possible town Math

Pedit: I don't think my play was terrible when I was here but I've been starting to lurk and not really contribute to discussions since I've fallen behind

To be clear since I think this is what you're referring to
This post means Roden is trying to help Math in the case Math is town

It's about reading Roden, not you

Although honestly everyone is possible town lol if I didn't think you were possible town still I wouldn't be talking to you like this

[Ausuka]

If I'm a cop I checked Titus

[Titus]

also does it make sense for Enchant to give us a hypo-cop result?

like hypothetically if he is ascetic cop, his investigation result last night is ____

I agree

I will give him cover even though I am not a cop
Everyone should do this.

If I am a cop my check was on StD

Not me because?

[Ausuka]

Fundamentally I don't think I could get enough insight into the game to call out every potential agenda scum could have. What I can do is look at posts that don't look like real town thoughts and think, they must be something else. If you think I'd be better off reads wise sheeping someone else who can do that, that's fair I guess but I don't see how anyone is meant to read me if I do that.

that's fair but I feel like what you're scumreading math for is that he doesn't think in a normal way and that's just how he is

I mean that's definitely possible, but idk I'm just trying to go off the info I have here

[MathBlade]

also does it make sense for Enchant to give us a hypo-cop result?

like hypothetically if he is ascetic cop, his investigation result last night is ____

I agree

I will give him cover even though I am not a cop
Everyone should do this.

If I am a cop my check was on StD

Not me because?

Because it’d be a waste. Imho you’re obvious scum who tried to save HEM yesterday

[Aristeia]

you did read the part that I linked to you where she made HEM wagon go from 3 votes to 6 votes right?

[MathBlade]

you did read the part that I linked to you where she made HEM wagon go from 3 votes to 6 votes right?

As I said earlier I did not

I had RL meetings from 11-1:30

Then came back here and posted

There’s still stuff from that period I haven’t read

[Roden]

Also i think MATH is town.

So don't vote Math. Thanks.

I am not claiming anything.

Just thinking Math is town

I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.

[Ausuka]

Also i think MATH is town.

So don't vote Math. Thanks.

I am not claiming anything.

Just thinking Math is town

I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.

Huh would it make today super easy? I mean there's still no way of knowing if it was doc/JK/something else I guess that would block the kill right?

[Titus]

Also i think MATH is town.

So don't vote Math. Thanks.

I am not claiming anything.

Just thinking Math is town

I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.

No way town math wouldn't check me.

[MathBlade]

Also i think MATH is town.

So don't vote Math. Thanks.

I am not claiming anything.

Just thinking Math is town

I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.

No way town math wouldn't check me.

Except for the numerous other times I haven’t.

[MathBlade]

Also i think MATH is town.

So don't vote Math. Thanks.

I am not claiming anything.

Just thinking Math is town

I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.

Huh would it make today super easy? I mean there's still no way of knowing if it was doc/JK/something else I guess that would block the kill right?

I already outlined the possibilities I saw earlier mechanically.

Doctor saved someone or there is an RB who is suggesting an elim

One of those two

It would mean scum didn’t likely shoot enchant if Doctor save

I figure start with roleblocker then JK then Doctor in that order of saves

Because that’s most scummy pick to least scummy

[MathBlade]

Roleblocker also would likely be a direct guilty versus JK which is 50/50 and doc which is a hard inno