Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.05

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-21 15:30:00).

yeet

MathBlade [4]:

Ausuka, Save The Dragons, Roden, Wallflower

Enchant [1]:

Aristeia

Aristeia [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons [1]:

MathBlade

not voting [6]:

implosion, Harley Quinn, Enchant, Dwlee99, Bellaphant, Titus

mod notes

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[Save The Dragons]

i definitely did not fake N3 vig intentionally that's on you for reading into something

[Save The Dragons]

so you just happen to pick up on something i said after i revealed the crumb wasn't a crumb as the reason? And nothing else?

why don't i just keep the charade going if i'm scum?

i still could be a N3 vig, i just didn't crumb it

[MathBlade]

so you just happen to pick up on something i said after i revealed the crumb wasn't a crumb as the reason? And nothing else?

why don't i just keep the charade going if i'm scum?

i still could be a N3 vig, i just didn't crumb it

No I said you crumbed a PR before you said you didn’t.

So like what? Your first sentence makes no grammatical sense.

Because you need the PR flexibility.

[Save The Dragons]

it just seems fishy that you're like "the first thing you said is bad" after discovering the crumb isn't a crumb

instead of like "well if it's not a crumb i guess i'll vote STD again"

[MathBlade]

it just seems fishy that you're like "the first thing you said is bad" after discovering the crumb isn't a crumb

instead of like "well if it's not a crumb i guess i'll vote STD again"

You’re welcome to find it fishy if you like

But I think you’re full of shit.

I don’t try to look good I am honest

[Save The Dragons]

live look at mathblade's voting patterns:

Spoiler:

[Save The Dragons]

cuz it's fishy

[Harley Quinn]

I hope we don’t rush the day again and there’s still pages I need to catch up on but it was mostly Titus and Math arguing with each other so I zoned out.

Ari’s take on Enchant claiming bp is just wrong. Picking bp is in no way a scumclaim. Not everyone sees the game the way she does.

Enchant claiming bp would definitely explain the nk, so unless Ari is claiming Enchant and Math are buddies, this take really makes no sense. Ari’s still town because like Dwlee, ain’t no way that was scum theatre.

[implosion]

I disagree that BP has "0 utility" but only on like, a technicality; if Enchant is town and got shot as bp then that did put us in odds which is nice. But it also has led to ambiguity over why there was no kill. I kind of see the claim itself in a bit of a middle ground. I don't think it's purely a scum claim, but I do agree it's very poor play, and I see no reason why Enchant as a town BP wouldn't have just... y'know... played day one.

For the doc/rb thing, worth mentioning that scum could also have gotten it and could just not claim it if they want to. Not purely a matter of "did at least one person pick within that pair".

People saying "just lim enchant's scumbuddy first" as though we can just Magically Know Who That Is are wack.

[Titus]

Let's just massclaim this out.

With Math, Ausuku, Enchant and Bella already on the table. There's not much left.

[implosion]

If scum were Math + Enchant, also, Enchant should have been the one making the kill (at least in theory) because either they're ascetic, or they'd know that people would be treating them as ascetic so there's no way they'd be blocked or tracked. In which case the kill should have gone through, unless there was a doc save that isn't claimed.

Part of me is honestly tempted by the massclaim idea, we've had so much info get put out in the open and we are ahead right now. Idk.

[implosion]

For reference I got p'edited by Titus there so I said that before seeing her support massclaim again

[Titus]

If we start with the bottom and claim PR or VT and work our way up to the top, we can get confirmation of certain roles existing and where they are.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not entirely opposed to massclaim but I also want HQ's thoughts on it

[Titus]

So PR/VT bottom up, specific PR claims top down.

[Titus]

I realized I should explain that.

A PR/VT from the bottom up prevents CCs from when scum want to counteract a PR in play. The PRs then go claiming from the top down.

A scum faking a PR runs the risk of someone higher up claiming their bullshit selection. A scum lying about their PR runs the risk of a VT countering saying "I'm higher up and didn't get it".

[Harley Quinn]

Let's just massclaim this out.

With Math, Ausuku, Enchant and Bella already on the table. There's not much left.

What did Bella claim?

[implosion]

I don't think Bella claimed but Roden did

[Titus]

Let's just massclaim this out.

With Math, Ausuku, Enchant and Bella already on the table. There's not much left.

What did Bella claim?

VT supporting Bella's claim exists

[Titus]

I don't think Bella claimed but Roden did

I forgot Roden. That's 5 town claims.

[MathBlade]

Let's just massclaim this out.

With Math, Ausuku, Enchant and Bella already on the table. There's not much left.

What did Bella claim?

VT supporting Bella's claim exists

I thought Bella claimed VT supporting Ausuka’s JK claim?

Or am I mistaken?

[Harley Quinn]

I'm not entirely opposed to massclaim but I also want HQ's thoughts on it

I’m not opposed but I’d like to see the slots I’m not confidently tr to go first.

[Titus]

PR/VT Order
StD
Dwlee
Titus
Ari
Wallflower
Implosion
Gamma
HQ

PR claim order
Harley
Gamma
Implosion
Wallflower
Ari
Titus
Dwlee
StD

@Math, You're right. I made a typo.
You good with this massclaim order?

[Titus]

Harley, I made a specific order to force scum to real claim.