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Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:46 pm

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In post 3273, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3272, Titus wrote:Dwlee, if you claim PR or VT then I will. Let's get this game moving rather than people just telling each other how to play.
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enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened
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Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:47 pm

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In post 3276, Gamma Emerald wrote:enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened
No, he claimed because he was forced to
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Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:47 pm

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In post 3277, Dwlee99 wrote:Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
I am

He can be solved in elo
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Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:48 pm

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Scum doesn’t put themselves at that kind of risk when they have no reason to do so. Enchant wasn’t in any danger prior to his claim and I can understand the push on him prior to Math obvtowning but obvtown!Math means Enchant is also town. I recently played a game with scum(Enchant and he only cared about his buddies, Scum!Enchant doesn’t WK Mathtown and put himself at risk like this.
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Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:48 pm

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In post 3277, Dwlee99 wrote:Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
I want to break the game open now that almost all the powerful roles claimed to get their way on a lim, let's get something useful out of it rather than just yelling at each other.
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Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:49 pm

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I agree with HQ on Enchant for the record but want to test to see if I am wrong.
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Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:49 pm

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In post 3275, Titus wrote:
In post 3273, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3272, Titus wrote:Dwlee, if you claim PR or VT then I will. Let's get this game moving rather than people just telling each other how to play.
There's no need to
Yes. It literally breaks the game at this point.
PRs aren't alignment bound and there is no way to setup spec for balance
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In post 3277, Dwlee99 wrote:Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
I am

He can be solved in elo
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Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:50 pm

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Dwlee, please. How many setups have you seen me break?
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Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:50 pm

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In post 3277, Dwlee99 wrote:Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
It’s only d2 and Enchant doesn’t need to be resolved today,
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Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:50 pm

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In post 3280, Harley Quinn wrote:Scum doesn’t put themselves at that kind of risk when they have no reason to do so. Enchant wasn’t in any danger prior to his claim and I can understand the push on him prior to Math obvtowning but obvtown!Math means Enchant is also town. I recently played a game with scum(Enchant and he only cared about his buddies, Scum!Enchant doesn’t WK Mathtown and put himself at risk like this.
But Enchant was FORCED to claim

He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart but I've seen two people in five minutes implying he chose to claim when he did
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Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:50 pm

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It’s simple.

If town doesn’t kill Enchant
Scum cannot kill Enchant

He de facto gets into elo

Where he can be judged like anyone else
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Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:50 pm

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if you haven't solved enchant's alignment right now you have no business trying to hard shield him by killing yourself
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Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 3286, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3280, Harley Quinn wrote:Scum doesn’t put themselves at that kind of risk when they have no reason to do so. Enchant wasn’t in any danger prior to his claim and I can understand the push on him prior to Math obvtowning but obvtown!Math means Enchant is also town. I recently played a game with scum(Enchant and he only cared about his buddies, Scum!Enchant doesn’t WK Mathtown and put himself at risk like this.
But Enchant was FORCED to claim

He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart but I've seen two people in five minutes implying he chose to claim when he did
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Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 3286, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3280, Harley Quinn wrote:Scum doesn’t put themselves at that kind of risk when they have no reason to do so. Enchant wasn’t in any danger prior to his claim and I can understand the push on him prior to Math obvtowning but obvtown!Math means Enchant is also town. I recently played a game with scum(Enchant and he only cared about his buddies, Scum!Enchant doesn’t WK Mathtown and put himself at risk like this.
But Enchant was FORCED to claim

He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart but I've seen two people in five minutes implying he chose to claim when he did
how was he forced to claim?
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Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 3285, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3277, Dwlee99 wrote:Is anyone okay with enchant endgaming? I don't understand why we had to out a bajillion roles for this and why people want MORE claims
It’s only d2 and Enchant doesn’t need to be resolved today,
In post 3284, Titus wrote:Dwlee, please. How many setups have you seen me break?
I cannot think of anything off the top of my head?
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Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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why are we trying to get to elo instead of trying to win the game
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Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 3288, Aristeia wrote:if you haven't solved enchant's alignment right now you have no business trying to hard shield him by killing yourself
I do.

Because mechanically I believe he is town

If town wants to get rid of unkillable town I am a better substitute.
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Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 3278, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3276, Gamma Emerald wrote:enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened
No, he claimed because he was forced to
He called Math town before he claimed anything. Where’s the scum motivation in that?
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Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:52 pm

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In post 3292, Aristeia wrote:why are we trying to get to elo instead of trying to win the game
I am trying to win the game by proving Enchant town
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Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:52 pm

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like if enchant is town and town doesn't vote enchant out, there's no gurantee he gets to elo because we can always kill two mafia.

the only way enchant is guranteed to go to elo if town doesn't vote out enchant is if he's mafia.
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Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:52 pm

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Like literally, I can plan out this game if we give me the tools to do so rather than yelling when people have made up their minds.
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Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:52 pm

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In post 3295, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3292, Aristeia wrote:why are we trying to get to elo instead of trying to win the game
I am trying to win the game by proving Enchant town
so explain to me how you are proving enchant is town
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Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:53 pm

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In post 3294, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3278, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3276, Gamma Emerald wrote:enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened
No, he claimed because he was forced to
He called Math town before he claimed anything. Where’s the scum motivation in that?
He could've been setting up for a fake cop claim? Or to pocket math? There's a ton of people defending him for not AI stuff so I guess it worked
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