Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Titus]

Dwlee, please can you claim PR or VT so we can keep going? I am sick of Enchant discussion.

[Harley Quinn]

vote count 2.05

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-21 15:30:00).

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MathBlade [4]:

Ausuka, Save The Dragons, Roden, Wallflower

Enchant [1]:

Aristeia

Aristeia [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons [1]:

MathBlade

not voting [6]:

implosion, Harley Quinn, Enchant, Dwlee99, Bellaphant, Titus

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Need 7 to say no to enchant

Anyone voting Math get off.

[MathBlade]

if enchant claims ascetic cop

it looks very shady if he lives to d3/4 because why is scum letting him live

and also he has to keep giving us inno results

if enchant claims bulletproof

its not surprising at all when he lives during the night

and he doesnt have to give us shit

You’re pushing this way too hard to be town

You’re contradicting yourself earlier

The loss is too damn big for town enchant

I will do anything and everything to stop you

If you want enchant you vote me

[Dwlee99]

why chicken out of fake cop claim if so? At the first sign of people thinking that was the case he declined it

He can't endgame

If he is scum he can’t end game either way
If I am scum I can’t endgame either way

Like c’mon mixter

He can endgame as a bulletproof claim

That's the whole point to claim it instead of cop

enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened

No, he claimed because he was forced to

He called Math town before he claimed anything. Where’s the scum motivation in that?

He could've been setting up for a fake cop claim? Or to pocket math? There's a ton of people defending him for not AI stuff so I guess it worked

Okay but none of that makes him scum.

There’s a really easy way to test this Roden voyeurs him. (Yes, I know Roden already volunteered to do this.) If either Roden doesn’t get results or dies, we know Enchant’s scum right?

How does Roden dying prove anything? Or what if Ausuka is scum and roleblocks Roden?

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, please can you claim PR or VT so we can keep going? I am sick of Enchant discussion.

In 1-4 sentences explain how claiming will make this easier to solve

[Titus]

if enchant claims ascetic cop

it looks very shady if he lives to d3/4 because why is scum letting him live

and also he has to keep giving us inno results

if enchant claims bulletproof

its not surprising at all when he lives during the night

and he doesnt have to give us shit

You’re pushing this way too hard to be town

You’re contradicting yourself earlier

The loss is too damn big for town enchant

I will do anything and everything to stop you

If you want enchant you vote me

Math, you're contributing to an unfun environment. Somethings are worth more than winning.

[MathBlade]

If Asuaka blocks Roden scum in enchant/Roden/A and we solve accordingly

That’s too much of a risk for scum

[MathBlade]

if enchant claims ascetic cop

it looks very shady if he lives to d3/4 because why is scum letting him live

and also he has to keep giving us inno results

if enchant claims bulletproof

its not surprising at all when he lives during the night

and he doesnt have to give us shit

You’re pushing this way too hard to be town

You’re contradicting yourself earlier

The loss is too damn big for town enchant

I will do anything and everything to stop you

If you want enchant you vote me

Math, you're contributing to an unfun environment. Somethings are worth more than winning.

You think I am having fun stopping a game throw?

No.

This is literally the only thing I can do

[Titus]

Dwlee, please can you claim PR or VT so we can keep going? I am sick of Enchant discussion.

In 1-4 sentences explain how claiming will make this easier to solve

We have nearly all the obvtown claimed. We force scum to claim in order to stop anymore bullshit and mechanics for 5000 more posts.

[Harley Quinn]

if enchant claims ascetic cop

it looks very shady if he lives to d3/4 because why is scum letting him live

and also he has to keep giving us inno results

if enchant claims bulletproof

its not surprising at all when he lives during the night

and he doesnt have to give us shit

If he claimed aesetic cop, Math would probably have been miselimmed already.

[Titus]

You think I am having fun stopping a game throw?

No.

This is literally the only thing I can do

Or you can have fun....

[MathBlade]

It’s a very simple explanation only scum Ari and scum Dwlee don’t fucking get.

[Aristeia]

You’re pushing this way too hard to be town

You’re contradicting yourself earlier

The loss is too damn big for town enchant

I will do anything and everything to stop you

If you want enchant you vote me

you didn't even understand my argument earlier

I was arguing on d1 to

not

eliminate enchant

because if he survives nights, then he will become obvscum for surviving because an ascetic cop shouldn't survive

so the longer he survives - the more obvious scum he gets

AND

he has to give us inno results

see for example this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=87460

Bee was pick #1

Bee was scum

Bee picked Ascetic Cop

Eventually at the end, Bee got eliminated for surviving a long time and got POE'd out by providing too many innocents.

[MathBlade]

You think I am having fun stopping a game throw?

No.

This is literally the only thing I can do

Or you can have fun....

Yes having fun would require a group promise not to elim enchant

Or having fun would be against wincon

[Dwlee99]

Why is that too much risk?

And also enchant can be scum bulletproof so it's not even possible to confirm him town

[Titus]

It’s a very simple explanation only scum Ari and scum Dwlee don’t fucking get.

Math, just because people disagree with you doesn't make them scum.

[Dwlee99]

It’s a very simple explanation only scum Ari and scum Dwlee don’t fucking get.

Lol okay bye

Have fun generating 700 more posts while I lay in bed not looking at this mess of a game

[Aristeia]

I was literally responding to people suggesting to wagon Enchant because they thought he was scummy for not playing

I said no let's eliminate HEM then if Enchant survives the night he becomes Obvscum and we can kill Enchant. If Enchant is town Ascetic cop, instead we get some innos out of eliminating enchant.

[Harley Quinn]

why chicken out of fake cop claim if so? At the first sign of people thinking that was the case he declined it

He can't endgame

If he is scum he can’t end game either way
If I am scum I can’t endgame either way

Like c’mon mixter

He can endgame as a bulletproof claim

That's the whole point to claim it instead of cop

enchant literally claimed to provide an alternate explanation to why no kill happened

No, he claimed because he was forced to

He called Math town before he claimed anything. Where’s the scum motivation in that?

He could've been setting up for a fake cop claim? Or to pocket math? There's a ton of people defending him for not AI stuff so I guess it worked

Okay but none of that makes him scum.

There’s a really easy way to test this Roden voyeurs him. (Yes, I know Roden already volunteered to do this.) If either Roden doesn’t get results or dies, we know Enchant’s scum right?

How does Roden dying prove anything? Or what if Ausuka is scum and roleblocks Roden?

I think they’re both town here. I see your point but I strongly tr both of them.

[MathBlade]

Why is that too much risk?

And also enchant can be scum bulletproof so it's not even possible to confirm him town

Unkillable town vs VT

Kill the VT everytime

I know I didn’t do the kill

Therefore scum shot Enchant (I don’t buy they shot HQ)

So then hooray unkillable town

I will go to the ends of the earth to defend him

[Aristeia]

if enchant claims ascetic cop

it looks very shady if he lives to d3/4 because why is scum letting him live

and also he has to keep giving us inno results

if enchant claims bulletproof

its not surprising at all when he lives during the night

and he doesnt have to give us shit

If he claimed aesetic cop, Math would probably have been miselimmed already.

If enchant!scum claims ascetic cop, he has to give us an innocent result

he will eventually be POE'd out by his own innocent results

[Aristeia]

Why is that too much risk?

And also enchant can be scum bulletproof so it's not even possible to confirm him town

Unkillable town vs VT

Kill the VT everytime

I know I didn’t do the kill

Therefore scum shot Enchant (I don’t buy they shot HQ)

So then hooray unkillable town

I will go to the ends of the earth to defend him

so prove to me scum shot enchant

how do you know this?

[MathBlade]

It’s a very simple explanation only scum Ari and scum Dwlee don’t fucking get.

Lol okay bye

Have fun generating 700 more posts while I lay in bed not looking at this mess of a game

Nice dodge because you can’t have unkillable town

[MathBlade]

Why is that too much risk?

And also enchant can be scum bulletproof so it's not even possible to confirm him town

Unkillable town vs VT

Kill the VT everytime

I know I didn’t do the kill

Therefore scum shot Enchant (I don’t buy they shot HQ)

So then hooray unkillable town

I will go to the ends of the earth to defend him

so prove to me scum shot enchant

how do you know this?

Because you said they’d have to

[Aristeia]

Because you said they’d have to

I said scum would have to shoot enchant if enchant is TOWN

SCUM DO NOT HAVE TO SHOOT ENCHANT IF ENCHANT IS MAFIA