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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:40 am

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My vote can be on bbt or corwin. I have the game solved on my end. Bella and somnus get to decide here. If my iso doesn't read town enough and I get flipped here, I guess that's on me. I'm not responding to bbt or corwin anymore but any questions Bella or somnus have for me, please ask away.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:41 am

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Cool, but who's actually scum? Bbt and? Saying it 'could be you' isn't helpful
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:42 am

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Bella bbt only possible if bbt afk and Bella didn't bother waiting to sync vote. Bella bbt can still win right now with corwin vote on me.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:42 am

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I mean, I think most of us are pretty on board with BlueBlood at a minimum being mafia. I’ve slowly been spending my Day 3 just trying to cross the T’s and dot the I’s in case it’s not.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:43 am

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Read 1360-1400 again. Rad is scum, my vote's not moving. BBT can't win the 3-way with any pairing of us now.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:44 am

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Assuming you both have at least semi-accepted the gross reality that Somnus finally rolled town, I only have 4 possible pairings left.

BlueBlood is in 3 of them
Rad is in 2 of them
Corwin is in 2 of them
Bella is in 1 of them.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:45 am

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Flip bbt red. Bella has to be nk. Somnus chooses between rad and corwin.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 1426, Bellaphant wrote:Cool, but who's actually scum? Bbt and? Saying it 'could be you' isn't helpful
I don’t need to literally nail the exact team right now. What I need to decide is: is it BlueBlood + anyone or is it exactly Rad/Corwin. That’s it as far as Day 3 goes.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:47 am

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Somnus, Bella is confirmed unless bbt afk. Corwin vote isn't moving off me. So as soon as bbt pops back in that's that. It's not even worth thinking about with corwin vote solid on me.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:52 am

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BBT is an auto elim tomorrow, without any possible wfiomery.
In post 1425, Rad wrote:If my iso doesn't read town enough and I get flipped here, I guess that's on me. I'm not responding to bbt or corwin anymore but any questions Bella or somnus have for me, please ask away.
Is another LAMIST post.
In post 1380, Corwinoid wrote:Rad basically has to be scum now, right? There's no way town misreps the probabilities/team-combinations here intentionally and pushes a possible mislim. He doesn't have to worry about budging on his Somnus read if he knows 100% Somnus is town. And he knows the early vote / bbt gambit is safe because he's in the scum team, regardless of what bbt's actual alignment is; if town!bbt it's a win, if scum!bbt he gets towncred for a quick lynch and a low-info day.
I told you I care a lot more about what people do than what they say. The things Rad is doing today are *not* Town things. He's peddling misinformation, arguments from false premises, and making plays that can only be safe if he knows the scum team ahead of time.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:52 am

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And he buried his head in the sand when called on them instead of addressing any of those points.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:53 am

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Really would prefer more time. Like, I was going to go through the unfortunate task of going through BlueBlood’s stellar and super-productive ISO today, as well as the ISO of Corwin, and look for interactions.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:55 am

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There isn’t a tomorrow though if you’re wrong. Like, you’ve been on both mis-lim wagons, Corwin. It’s certainly possible Town!Corwin is jumping to a game-losing conclusion here.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:56 am

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Actually is it possible for you to be town here and wrong?
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:59 am

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In post 1438, Somnus wrote:Actually is it possible for you to be town here and wrong?
Only if the scum team is you and Rad.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:00 am

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I guess so. For that to be the case, Rad jumped in at the very start of Day 3 and somehow wasn’t able to alert Somnus to hammer the player I’ve had as scum most of the game and end what has been a mostly terrible experience.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:03 am

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No, and after we had BBT at such a high probability from POE I thought it became less and less likely with the way Rad was acting.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:05 am

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So out of curiosity, what pairing is Town!Corwin assuming? Because if you’re convinced it’s Rad, fine, but Bella-Rad is already clear. That leaves Somnus-Rad or BlueBlood-Rad.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:08 am

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I could clear Somnus-Rad and Somnus-Corwin right now if you trust that I in fact didn’t skip coordinating with my hypothetical partner to end this mess early Day 3.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:09 am

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BBT/Rad.

Bella's cleared, you are the least likely scum, and you should be cleared to you. If we elim BBT today me/rad can NK either of you and make the 3-way a complete shit show. But any of the pairings with you, or with Bella win against BBT in the 3-way.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:09 am

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For scum!rad to work here, it means that even though I understood what the best scum play was (hammer a somnus vote on bbt), I decided against it because ____? Or I'm with bbt and we are 2 wild and crazy guys, aligning most of the game just to pull off some wacky bus logic play in d3 that ends up confirming both bella and somnus in the process. Whoops! Bbt rad fail scum team.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:12 am

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In post 1445, Rad wrote:For scum!rad to work here, it means that even though I understood what the best scum play was (hammer a somnus vote on bbt)
Who is the second vote in your fantasy?

> Or I'm with bbt and we are 2 wild and crazy guys [...]

Honestly, that seems exactly like BBT.
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:16 am

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If BlueBlood wants to show back up and clear Somnus-BlueBlood right now, that would be fantastic too :lol:

There's always the possibility that it's BlueBlood Bella and somehow just couldn't coordinate yet, but meh...
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:19 am

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I don't think so, she's right that she could have hammered after I put him -1 and then taken it to 3Lo. I'm not sure what pair she would have picked, but there's a decent shot at winning that.
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:21 am

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Then it would pretty much have to be BlueBlood/Rad from your perspective. Not 100%, but mostly.
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