Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 4.02

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-07-02 02:15:00).

yeet

Save The Dragons [5]:

implosion, Ausuka, Aristeia, Roden, Enchant

Enchant [1]:

Save The Dragons

not voting [5]:

Harley Quinn, Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, Bellaphant, Titus

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[Aristeia]

Spoiler: For Dats<3

[Harley Quinn]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

[Harley Quinn]

:/

I'm fine with that plan. And tbh I didn't even realize that I helped mech guilt Wallflower there.

I still think it's just Enchant tbh, but if people want to vote STD just in case then fine.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

@Roden if you really think it’s Enchant, then why drag this out? Atp, I don’t honestly think Implosion is going to get to use his UB and we probably just wasted a flip.

[Harley Quinn]

STD is at E -1 now, can someone unvote?

[Enchant]

STD is at E -1 now, can someone unvote?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: enchant
as much as I'd love to drop hammer this is still what I prefer

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Enchant

[implosion]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

i think he might and i literally don't care about reading people based on things like this right now; i just care about chain-limming all the VT claims because it's optimal to do so.

[Roden]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

It's not impossible for scum to say. Wallflower looked townie yesterday but everything she said was ultimately NAI, she kinda just had to say what she did and the same is true for scum!STD. Or really scum!anyone this game. Best play for scum right now is to let the pitchfork mob have their way and be amicable.

:/

I'm fine with that plan. And tbh I didn't even realize that I helped mech guilt Wallflower there.

I still think it's just Enchant tbh, but if people want to vote STD just in case then fine.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

@Roden if you really think it’s Enchant, then why drag this out? Atp, I don’t honestly think Implosion is going to get to use his UB and we probably just wasted a flip.

Because if STD is town and scum no kills again to stop the UB getting Doctor, then we are guaranteed to have two conftown in ELo.

[Roden]

Then again, Enchant chose BP over Cop and then decided not to play...like he is just obvscum here

VOTE: Enchant

[Ausuka]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

Maybe?

I mean it's hardly optimal scumplay here to be like "you guys should never eliminate me ever I am obvious town"

[Ausuka]

Wallflower did like the exact same thing

[Ausuka]

I mean obviously I was willing to kill Enchant as well although I think we should collectively agree to just not eliminate implosion if we do that probably??

Idk I just feel like we should start murdering people you know

[Aristeia]

I'm fine with whatever atp

[Harley Quinn]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

i think he might and i literally don't care about reading people based on things like this right now; i just care about chain-limming all the VT claims because it's optimal to do so.

No it isn’t. Not as long as Enchant is in the game and you being this fixated on something that is clearly likely not happening is weird imo.

Unless you actually tr Enchant here, why are you so opposed to him flipping?

[Harley Quinn]

if you wanna kill me you can kill me if it's easier i think this game is pretty much won for town

Do you think scum!STD makes this post?

He had no votes on him at the time?

It's not impossible for scum to say. Wallflower looked townie yesterday but everything she said was ultimately NAI, she kinda just had to say what she did and the same is true for scum!STD. Or really scum!anyone this game. Best play for scum right now is to let the pitchfork mob have their way and be amicable.

:/

I'm fine with that plan. And tbh I didn't even realize that I helped mech guilt Wallflower there.

I still think it's just Enchant tbh, but if people want to vote STD just in case then fine.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

@Roden if you really think it’s Enchant, then why drag this out? Atp, I don’t honestly think Implosion is going to get to use his UB and we probably just wasted a flip.

Because if STD is town and scum no kills again to stop the UB getting Doctor, then we are guaranteed to have two conftown in ELo.

If he flips town while getting run up, he’s already dead.

I was only seriously considering STD if Wallflower flipped town and/or Enchant also flipped town. Wallflower was mech guiltied, STD isn’t.

And flipping all of the vts so there’s a snowball’s chance in hell, Implosion gets to use his UB. is seriously stupid af. There’s absolutely no incentive for scum to kill anyone here, especially Enchant.

[implosion]

being this fixated on something that is clearly likely not happening

std was at e-1 though?? wdym "clearly likely not happening"

[Harley Quinn]

being this fixated on something that is clearly likely not happening

std was at e-1 though?? wdym "clearly likely not happening"

STD had no votes on him when he offered to be the lim.

What isn’t likely to happen is you getting to use your UB because obviously the optimal play for scum here is to jist ride it out and no kill, so why should we drag out this game, when it clearly looks like that’s not going to happen?

If we lim STD and game doesn’t end, which I think it won’t but Ausuka jks someone other than Enchant, he would be stupid to kill anyone if scum here because as soon as he isn’t jk’d and anyone dies, he’s confiscum here and also even if it isn’t him, scum’s best play is to keep the game nightless.

However, I think there are damning associatives between both flipped scum and Enchant and given the extreme likihood of game continuing to be nightless, I don’t think it makes a helluva a lot of sense to lim STD before Enchant.

[implosion]

STD had no votes on him when he offered to be the lim.

And yet, as soon as I voted him, four people followed

I don't disagree that Enchant is the most likely person (or at the very least, among the most likely) to be scum here. I just would like to delay eliminating them so that we can eliminate some VTs who are among the next most likely while scum still have the bonus incentive not to kill of me being uninherited, in case Enchant is actually town, because I'm ostensibly 100% confident we're going to win the game

eventually

if Enchant is scum.

[Harley Quinn]

STD had no votes on him when he offered to be the lim.

And yet, as soon as I voted him, four people followed

I don't disagree that Enchant is the most likely person (or at the very least, among the most likely) to be scum here. I just would like to delay eliminating them so that we can eliminate some VTs who are among the next most likely while scum still have the bonus incentive not to kill of me being uninherited, in case Enchant is actually town, because I'm ostensibly 100% confident we're going to win the game

eventually

if Enchant is scum.

I don’t think you’re going to get to use your UB because it’s optimal for scum to play nightless and I don’t see why we shouldn’t lim to scummiest player.

[Harley Quinn]

So what if 4 people followed? He had 0 votes on him when he offered to be flipped.

[implosion]

The point is that limming Enchant immediately removes scum's disincentive to shoot Ari (that disincentive being that I'll become doc). So they will just shoot Ari. It's entirely possible scum is someone who's flying under the radar right now, in which case, even if we think I ultimately won't be able to use my UB, it's best to keep doing other lims that force scum to keep not killing for now so we can earn even more free mislims.

[Bellaphant]

I don't think we need to be playing that conservative? We are doing really well.

[Datisi]

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