The Future

[Gamma Emerald]

Coalition is the game where you were hydra with Nero right?

[Loki Dokie]

A.) Saying you'll be disappointed if someone is town because that would mean they misread you is pretty much just manipulation, yes.

and

B.) Could I get a tldr on Loki!scum from Gamma without it coming from last couple pages

pedit: Idk

I’m not saying anything that isn’t true. Gamma should absolutely know that this isn’t how I play scum here.

[Gamma Emerald]

And like, I don’t really have a solid clue whether you play like this as scum or not because I have never seen you argue in bad faith this drastically. As such I am just drawing a non-meta conclusion, and that is that it’s scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I swear to God would you can it with “I’m not lying” because a) you kinda were earlier and b) you being obsessed with it being perceived that you’re telling the truth is not a good look at all.

[Loki Dokie]

Coalition is the game where you were hydra with Nero right?

Yes and if you recall, I never reacrssed on LUV because I couldn’t afford to, even when he towntold and he only suspected me after I ignored that.

I came back fully expecting town!Gamma to realize that but that obviously didn’t happen, so I absolutely don’t want to miselim you if you’re actually town but no way in hell am I going to allow anyone to ever benefit from my miselim. Because I am 100% town here and you should absolutely know that.

I never reacess like that if scum. What possible reason would scum!me had to do that? None.

That should have been an overwhelming wake up call to town!you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, if you seriously think I’d play this way as scum, then you have absolutely no clue how to read me. And I don’t understand how town!you hasn’t unvoted me yet.

If you’re town I’m extremely disappointed in you because you’re the one who’s certifiably blind here and some other things I won’t mention.

Starting to wonder again if NAHA is right.

VOTE: Gamma

There’s absolutely no way you don’t know I’m town here.

Honestly you jumped the fucking gun on this because I might have actually changed my vote before this but now my mood has soured

[Gamma Emerald]

Coalition is the game where you were hydra with Nero right?

Yes and if you recall, I never reacrssed on LUV because I couldn’t afford to, even when he towntold and he only suspected me after I ignored that.

I came back fully expecting town!Gamma to realize that but that obviously didn’t happen, so I absolutely don’t want to miselim you if you’re actually town but no way in hell am I going to allow anyone to ever benefit from my miselim. Because I am 100% town here and you should absolutely know that.

I never reacess like that if scum. What possible reason would scum!me had to do that? None.

That should have been an overwhelming wake up call to town!you.

The circumstances here are different tho and in a way where disengaging could be seen as useful if you were scum. If I die screaming for your head in a basket and flip town, you end up in a whole lot of hot water potentially. I honestly think you returning to voting me is almost towny but it’s accompanied by you failing to give me a chance to actually process “hey maybe I should switch votes” before immediately going on the attack again. Feels like paranoia that things will turn against you.

[Loki Dokie]

And like, I don’t really have a solid clue whether you play like this as scum or not because I have never seen you argue in bad faith this drastically. As such I am just drawing a non-meta conclusion, and that is that it’s scummy.

I have done nothing in bad faith here.

I asked you questions and you proceeded to shade and discredit me and not answer them but when CSF asks you pretty much the exact same thing, you don’t treat her the same way you did me.

I pointed out that Fidget’s posting style wasn’t scum indicative. I based that off of a game I played with her as town. I also asked you why the blackjack and hookers thing was scummy when you tr NAHA for thinking scum is on both wagons and you did as well.

Now you did sort of explain that. so I started to think maybe I was just wrong and not understanding your reasoning but when I come back to the thread, there’s 0 reacessment from you about my slot and I know you know that isn’t how I play scum.

[Loki Dokie]

Gamma, if you seriously think I’d play this way as scum, then you have absolutely no clue how to read me. And I don’t understand how town!you hasn’t unvoted me yet.

If you’re town I’m extremely disappointed in you because you’re the one who’s certifiably blind here and some other things I won’t mention.

Starting to wonder again if NAHA is right.

VOTE: Gamma

There’s absolutely no way you don’t know I’m town here.

Honestly you jumped the fucking gun on this because I might have actually changed my vote before this but now my mood has soured

Is that actually the case because your last post didn’t give that impression?

[Gamma Emerald]

I would have re-assessed if you actually tried to give me a chance
What you should have said upon seeing me not remove my vote was “now that you’ve cooled off, could you unvote so we could talk things out”
Instead you immediately harp on me for not changing my vote when I honestly hadn’t even had the thought cross my mind to do so until you said something about it
So like, how am I supposed to take you giving me no chance to actually do something good in your eyes before you condemn me?

[Loki Dokie]

I will flip town Gamma and whatever you believe - if you’re actually town - I absolutely don’t want to miselim you. You can choose to believe that or not.

I have defended scum too many times for shitpushing me and I didn’t want that to happen again.

Am I convinced you’re scum now? No but if you’re going to stay on me, I will do likewise.

[Loki Dokie]

I would have re-assessed if you actually tried to give me a chance
What you should have said upon seeing me not remove my vote was “now that you’ve cooled off, could you unvote so we could talk things out”
Instead you immediately harp on me for not changing my vote when I honestly hadn’t even had the thought cross my mind to do so until you said something about it
So like, how am I supposed to take you giving me no chance to actually do something good in your eyes before you condemn me?

I have absolutely not done that. I’m saying if you’re going to keep your vote on me, after it’s beyond obvious I’ve blatantly towntold, then what am I supposed to think?

[Gamma Emerald]

How about this? We both promise to not vote each other the rest of this phase. I will unvote first but given how little of a chance you seem to be willing to give me, this is the only terms I can come up with that feel fair to me.
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I would have re-assessed if you actually tried to give me a chance
What you should have said upon seeing me not remove my vote was “now that you’ve cooled off, could you unvote so we could talk things out”
Instead you immediately harp on me for not changing my vote when I honestly hadn’t even had the thought cross my mind to do so until you said something about it
So like, how am I supposed to take you giving me no chance to actually do something good in your eyes before you condemn me?

I have absolutely not done that. I’m saying if you’re going to keep your vote on me, after it’s beyond obvious I’ve blatantly towntold, then what am I supposed to think?

Again, I would have 1000% reacted better if you’d actually brought it up in a civil manner instead of going for my throat because I

DARED

leave my vote on you!

[Loki Dokie]

So where I’m at, is it possible I jumped the gin here? Sure it’s possible but if you’re scum here, I can also see you making the argument after my flip that you should have stayed on Fidget. So if you’re scum here, you get two free miselims.

If you’re not scum then Idk if the reason you’re now seeming to reacess is that I revoted you or if you’re actually telling the truth.

I just opened the thread and saw that post and reacted because you didn’t say anything about reacessing. I’m not a mind reader. That’s how it looked to me.

[Loki Dokie]

UNVOTE:

I hate that I’m even in this pt and it failed. I don’t know who the saboteur is. I almost want to be miselimed so I don’t have to keep putting myself through this torture.

You do sound extremely sincere though, meh.

[Gamma Emerald]

I started re-assessing when I was writing about your possible scum motive for reconsidering and it almost felt like you were doing the opposite of the agenda I was describing

[Loki Dokie]

Someone in this pt is lying and I have no idea who and I don’t know how I’m supposed to figure that out.

[Loki Dokie]

I started re-assessing when I was writing about your possible scum motive for reconsidering and it almost felt like you were doing the opposite of the agenda I was describing

I have no scum motive for reconsidering, that’s what I’m trying to tell you. If I’m scum, I’d have to be an idiot here with almost everyone willing to vote you. I want to lim the saboteur and I have no clue how I’m supposed to figure that out.

I am also not just unvoting you because you unvoted me. I was already having doubts but that doesn’t help me much because I have no idea who to vote for.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a gut feeling it’s either NAHA or maybe Aisa, based on how long this has been going on and me not recalling them doing anything to defuse or sort out this situation
Like, NAHA has been very active in the main thread and in general is a very active player but has second-fewest post in here? I kinda get the feeling they’re trying to ride things out by letting people like you lead the charge against me so they can keep their hands relatively clean in the first part.

[Fidget]

This is going in a better direction. We still have to chop two people though.

[Loki Dokie]

Idk, I feel the worst about Asia and probably because I still think toog is scum but idk anymore. It’s possible NAHA could be pocketing me.

They offered to be next if you flipped scum but I guess that’s the crux. Because it’s ONLY if that happens. They didn’t just offer to be the second lim unconditionally.

But I’m leaning more and more to my being initially right on you. So as horribly unpleasant as this was for both pf us, I believe I have some clarity.

So yeah, I do think you’re probably town here. Your reaction to being pushed sounded genuine.

Fidget didn’t jump on you and criticized my reasoning, so yeah, I think I’m agreeing with you. I think both you and Fidget are town. I still think CSF’s posting looked really town. The questions she was asking don’t tend to come from scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

How does toog scum = Aisa scum
I have nothing against the thought, it just feels a bit random

[Loki Dokie]

This is going in a better direction. We still have to chop two people though.

Do you think it’s possible there could be two saboteurs? I first thought not but I don’t understand why Aisa’s town but NAHA saying they agree to be limmed if Gamma flipped scum actually doesn’t make a whole lot of sense really. Shouldn’t it be the exact opposite of that?

But yeah, that really doesn’t make sense. NAHA should logically be saying if Gamma flips town, because it obviously meant their solve was wrong. If Gamma flipped scum, then it means their reads were actually correct and therefore shouldn’t offer to be the next lim.

[Loki Dokie]

How does toog scum = Aisa scum
I have nothing against the thought, it just feels a bit random

I don’t know but if you’re right about NAHA then I need to rethink everything,

I do know that Shoshin absolutely loathes playing scum and she flaked. I was willing to give toog the benefit of the doubt because maybe Shoshin actually had internet issues after picking up her role pm but he hasn’t acted like he did in Anything uPick.

I have no experience playing with Aisa. It’s very hard to tell with her because a lot of her posting is extremely mech focused and comes off as wooden.

But it is weird that NAHA offers to be limmed if you flip scum and not town. It logically ought to be the converse.

So rn, I think you, Fidget. CSF are all town.