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[Faker]

Like i dont get why gamma's pov is important or relevant or how it explains why meuh switched

bruh WHAT

READ FULL SEQUENCE, OPEN THE PAGE

I'M CHEWING ON ARI'S POINT WHICH SEEMS FINE BUT THIS IS ?????? WHAT

[Faker]

did you try a) reading the quoted posts b) reading the page before the unvote

both of these go a long way towards understanding why gamma's posts may have had an impact on her voting fruit

[GuiltyLion]

Hey everyone, I am BACK ON THE GRID!! Sorry for the absence it was a bit more total than I was expecting but I am home now and ready to get back in this. Gonna unpack and relax a little bit tonight first before catching up but I'll try to read up and make some posts before bed tonight over the next few hours

[skitter30]

I dont understand why gamma's posts led her to drop the wagon she wanted and had been campaigning for and was acrually building at that moment, no

Pedit hi gl!!!! Hope you had a good time :)

[Isis]

UNVOTE:

[Isis]

I still be leaning skitter

[Aristeia]

yea I read them multiple times.


I also read every pavo post between her first vote and her unvote many many times.

I don't see a reason for her to change her mind on pavowski being scummy.

I don't see a reason for her to get paranoid about the people on the wagon with her.

if either of those were true I would imagine she would

say it

when she changed her vote.

her response to me at 3238 is bizarre; she claims

"I can scumread more than one person"

as an explanation. Like um ok, let's say she scumreads both Pavowski and Fruit at the same time at that point. why would she abandon a wagon that is picking up speed at 5 votes and threatening to go on someone who has zero votes? How is that productive?

[Isis]

Like what if none of my reads are wrong cause I didn't really believe in best wagon and I should just belief in myself

I mean that sounds arrogant but I more mean like

What if I haven't messed up yet

Like all five confs fit my worldview a lot

Idk

[Faker]

I dont understand why gamma's posts led her to drop the wagon she wanted and had been campaigning for and was acrually building at that moment, no

This is a valid argument IMO, framing it as not enough or opportunistic in the same vein of Aristeia's posting.

Acting like it is completely irrelevant and sticking your head in the sand is awful though, as scum it's specifically Gamma's posts and one of marci's that she is trying to take advantage of. They're absolutely relevant.

[skitter30]

Your worldview is still wrong unfortunately

Pedit @isis

[Isis]

If gl has at least 4 hours for this game I will likely sheep him but if he has to skin I'll be spicy

[Faker]

her response to me at 3238 is bizarre; she claims

"I can scumread more than one person"

as an explanation. Like um ok, let's say she scumreads both Pavowski and Fruit at the same time at that point. why would she abandon a wagon that is picking up speed at 5 votes and threatening to go on someone who has zero votes? How is that productive?

FWIW while I'm still Doing the Forensics and working on this, that scumreading more than one person was my independent thought as I made that first wall and I came back to it when I first saw your post.

[Aristeia]

Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

Who do you think falls into each camp here?

hmmm
I assume you mean the camp of aware vs ignoring?
I'm gonna take a look at people's ISOs to get the accurate picture of it all
Note that ignoring doesn't mean no mention of Pav, it means more so less harsh stances and less attention on him:

Aware: Me, Titus, Ari, Coral, GL
Ignoring: Marci, Fruit, Worstie, Gamma, Isis, Cakez, Skitter
Pavowski: Pavowski

Things that stuck out to me while looking at this:
-Coral and TW have given significantly different amounts of attention to Pav.
-Isis barely mentions him, considering her postcount
-It's even worse for Skitter, who also barely mentions him. From what I can see she literally didn't talk about him until 1691, which is impressive.

and look at this post she makes.

she's doing pre-flip associatives with Pavowski and shading people for how much they mention pavowski as if he were a flipped scum.

this is

AFTER

she unvoted Pavowski and derailed the wagon at 2305 literally like three hours ago.

[Isis]

Your worldview is still wrong unfortunately

Pedit @isis

I'm pretty scared of losing to argument by repetition so I think that's why I clank towards skitter a lot

[Isis]

Not saying you shouldn't play that way just playstyle idiosyncracies

[Aristeia]

If gl has at least 4 hours for this game I will likely sheep him but if he has to skin I'll be spicy

save us hobbes

[GuiltyLion]

Pedit hi gl!!!! Hope you had a good time

thanks Skitter yah it was unreal!

I got to see Porter Robinson play three different sets, one of them on an organ for like 100 people I was not 20 feet away so I'm still basking in that glow for the rest of my life

[skitter30]

No, its not an adequate explanation @faker
It doesnt make sense given the context of her actually getting a wagon she'd been saying she wanted. Gamma's posts dont explain the change, and are not a stronf enuf 'prompt' to create said change

I dont randomly leave a wagon i believe in when it has 5 votes after a long day to start a wagon just cuz someone else thinks they should be pressured. That's a bizarrw thing to do as town (but makes sense if ur scum and ur partner is getting wagoned!)

Also if she had a good explanation for her actions she would have mentioned it by now imo

I'm also very skeptical that you believe this argument faker

Pedit i dont know who that ia but that sounds awesome and i'm so happy to hear u had a good time!!!

[GuiltyLion]

If gl has at least 4 hours for this game I will likely sheep him but if he has to skin I'll be spicy

save us hobbes

Lol I don't have 4 hours all tonight but I'm definitely reading everything D3 and giving reads and tomorrow I should be around playing all day

[Faker]

For Aristeia, I already briefly talked about that in 4191 but I'm going to hold off on responding more fully.

I think your point is valid and worth a slow-chew and accompanying response; I already had several things I wanted to do surrounding the aftermath of the Fruit vote and only rushed that first wall out to begin with because skitter was complaining. I don't think the vote on Fruit was either out of left field or nonsensical in timing, and I don't find swapping from one scumread to another implausible.

I'm specifically chewing more on your refinement of the last point.

[skitter30]

Your worldview is still wrong unfortunately

Pedit @isis

I'm pretty scared of losing to argument by repetition so I think that's why I clank towards skitter a lot

I mean yeah but i'm scared of losing to confbias so i stilk have fo keep trying to knock it out of u

[Faker]

YO PORTER ROBINSON WAS ONE OF THE BEST LIVE SHOWS I'VE EVER BEEN TO

GUILTYLION IS TRULY MY SPIRITUAL SIBLING

[Aristeia]

Pedit hi gl!!!! Hope you had a good time

thanks Skitter yah it was unreal!

I got to see Porter Robinson play three different sets, one of them on an organ for like 100 people I was not 20 feet away so I'm still basking in that glow for the rest of my life

this sounds lovely and I am insanely jealous

[skitter30]

Oh no maybe faker is scum >.>

[Aristeia]

is it because of Porter Robinson?