Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Eiralox]

I'm not saying.

Hammer me.

NM is the roleblocker. Got it.

here again....


@Elsa u really think gibus/Not_MAfia is a good pairing? cos im not seeing it. hmmmmmmmm.

[gibus]

Moving back to toffee if she claims pr or smth.

I realized way before I claimed.
This was a crumb of sorts.

[Eiralox]

@gibus so between vivax and Not_mafia who would you rather elim?

[geraintm]

game suddenly got busy. first half of the night's posts seem to be people pairing me with elsa as a team because we've not talked to each other.

2nd half of the night's posts seems to be people flinging mud around, i dunno i got bored.

i havent intereacted much with elsa because Day 1 i was messed around by Crescent. Today they are basically not Not Mafia. Day 2 i cannot remember.

you lot work out what you want to do. i still cannot see how any of your ideas solve Vivax and Not mafia and i am going to be so pissed if town loses this game because those two have just sat and done nothing the whole game and we talk ourselves into some big brain plays.
i am assuming the Dead THread are just bashing their heads at all of this.

[gibus]

@gibus so between vivax and Not_mafia who would you rather elim?

Assuming Elsa is town? Definitely NM.

[Eiralox]

hmmm. interesting entrance gera.

[Eiralox]

gera why don't u mention gibus in ur post?

[gibus]

I'm not saying.

Hammer me.

NM is the roleblocker. Got it.

here again....


@Elsa u really think gibus/Not_MAfia is a good pairing? cos im not seeing it. hmmmmmmmm.

Not that it matters anymore but, I was entertaining the possibility that bbt wanted to die to save his rb buddy so that elsa/me wouldn't auto town win.

[geraintm]

gera why don't u mention gibus in ur post?

was i meant to?
i didnt see anyone pairing me with him - i was skimming it and i kept seeing people saying i was scum with elsa.

[Eiralox]

@gibus anything matters. if you are the doctor now is time to lay out any truth that may help town.

[Eiralox]

gera why don't u mention gibus in ur post?

was i meant to?
i didnt see anyone pairing me with him - i was skimming it and i kept seeing people saying i was scum with elsa.

uf i didn;t skim ya'da mentiioned gibus

[Eiralox]

VOTE: Vivax

I mean I haven't voted there yet since we'd still have to find the partner but yeah Doc is 99 percent fake.

Eh

I'm pretty slow. Gimme time to collect my thoughts.

Spoiler:

I mean I got a new spicy theory for scum Crescent if you wanna hear it Eira. I know it's getting old there but whatever.

Though if the Crescent Mastermind theory isn't worth pursuing it's something along the lines of either Vivax today. Or NotMaf has to go since if we're wrong again we're in MyLo and unable to just Launch NotMaf day 4.

always up for theories elsa : P

what about gibus? u trust the claim at this point? Is gera on the table? Corwin conf town 2 u?

Actually the theory involves both Cres AND Gibus here honestly.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Do we really think there's 2 Protectives left, especially since the JOAT also had a 1-shot protective as well as a commuter? No. So while I want today to also focus on the other slots so we can find the partner, Gibus is probscum.

Let's start with Combined Doctor Checker as the first claim. Then in my first post after this I claimed [Redacted]-Enabler Bodyguard.

So while I mentioned it today, I also hinted earlier after Crescent ruthlessly tried to argue my [Redacted] was a scum claim because it implied a fifth PR. The mistake there was not assuming it was for any of the other claimed roles at the time. Slight shading there maybe? Not as important.

Then I get too confident and basically out what I really was with my hypothetical post mentioning scum Roleblocker. Didn't mean to basically spell it out there but oh well. So it's also why I believed at the time there was a Doctor Checker because it specifically also mentioned a Roleblocker counter ability while mine was an enabler.

But is it really surprising SCUM knows about a Roleblocker? And a Doctor who "heals" Crescent as the possible partner to basically garuntee they just never actually heal to prove it? Hell while I did crumb I was healing Crescent all signs pointed to Gibus wanting to heal Eira. His direct quote was "Eira Cres Alex, preferably Eira". It felt more weird to heal the same person twice in a row when as doc you'd rather try healing the Vigilante. Unless Gibus has mentioned anything about thinking Cres was Vig I don't think healing Cres is the town move there.

That and compared to Bodyguard who still gives scum a kill via my death to save someone, Doctor would prevent a kill entirely. If it wasn't a JOAT with two forms of protection available you could've argued Doctor was valid but it makes way more sense for it to be Bodyguard.

Here's the Flipped PRs

Non-consecutive Vigilante
Detective
JOAT (Follower Commuter Rolestopper Rolecop)

Does town seem better with a Doctor who appearantly KNOWS when they get Roleblocked, or a Bodyguard who's trying to die to disable a scum Roleblocker they enable? Town enabling Scum abilities is as common as well as town ones so I wasn't sure at the time but this confirms it to me.

I think Gibus is actually the Roleblocker claiming to be a doctor to have avoided getting launched and/or to get the actual PR to out themselves. But I think because I mentioned possibly being Roleblocker enabler they just probably Roleblocked me to prevent me from dying to keep their ability AND to keep cover. Particularly after the JOAT flip. Plus they'd still want to hunt the Vigilante too.

But with literally all the Other PRs dead I've outlived my usefulness so I'm dying tonight if we get Gibus, or if we didn't focus on us we would've been the two fighting in MyLo. Hence me stating it now Gibus is probably the evil one.

Can someone do the math and find out how balanced a doc/bg/vig setup is?

[Eiralox]

VOTE: geraintm
To avenge clidd, gb, and bbt

OK

VOTE: Not_Mafia

UNVOTE:

Is it too far fetched to think there might be 4 mafia aligned players in a universe where both me and Elsa are town prs?

I'll vote whomever crescent votes

Can someone unvote NM before he lolhammers himself?

Fwiw, if having 2 protective roles is mathematically imbalanced, I think today's launch should be either Elsa or me.
That should guarantee that we reach 4player lylo with 1 scum worst case.

[Eiralox]

@gibus make ur case against elsa.

[Eiralox]

VOTE: geraintm
To avenge clidd, gb, and bbt

Gera didn';t vote for clidd, gera voted for toffee.

Gibus voted for both.

[Eiralox]

correction:


Gera didn';t vote for george, gera voted for toffee.

Gibus voted for both.

[Eiralox]

i'm getting good vibes from gera and elsa.

i'm feeling good about this vote.

VOTE: gibus

if gibus flips scum im looking at gibus/vivax, gibus/corwin, gibus/not_mafia, gibus/gera, gibus_crescent, gibus/elsa in that order, depending on NK's.

[gibus]

game suddenly got busy. first half of the night's posts seem to be people pairing me with elsa as a team because we've not talked to each other.

2nd half of the night's posts seems to be people flinging mud around, i dunno i got bored.

i havent intereacted much with elsa because Day 1 i was messed around by Crescent. Today they are basically not Not Mafia. Day 2 i cannot remember.

you lot work out what you want to do. i still cannot see how any of your ideas solve Vivax and Not mafia and i am going to be so pissed if town loses this game because those two have just sat and done nothing the whole game and we talk ourselves into some big brain plays.
i am assuming the Dead THread are just bashing their heads at all of this.

Why did you feel the need to justify your lack of interaction with elsa?
You're the top pick for her scum buddy because other pairings make no sense.

[gibus]

you lot work out what you want to do. i still cannot see how any of your ideas solve Vivax and Not mafia and i am going to be so pissed if town loses this game because those two have just sat and done nothing the whole game and we talk ourselves into some big brain plays.

Do you think it's balanced if town has potentially 3 protective roles?

[Vivax]

we talk ourselves into some big brain plays.

That's the problem.
If you spend enough time on it, you can picture any scenario possible. There is such a thing as overthinking it.

If you start from Crescents analysis of the wagons and look at Eiras activity explosion before, you should think that Eira is mafia no?
Or why did NM do his big flashy post voting for me?Is that in any way similar to how he played on D1?

[gibus]

^ that

Vote Count 3.2

Vivax (4):

gibus, Elsa Jay, Not_Mafia, Eiralox

Not_Mafia (1):

geraintm

Crescent (1):

Corwinoid

Not voting (2):

Crescent, Vivax

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-30 12:40:00)

Notes:

• Yes I know that strictly speaking math diagrams are not the same as science diagrams, thank you very much

Vote Count 3.3

Not_Mafia (3):

geraintm, Elsa Jay, Vivax

Vivax (1):

Eiralox

Not voting (4):

Crescent, Not_Mafia, gibus, Corwinoid

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-30 12:40:00)

NM/vivax is by far the most outlandish conclusion to come to as town

[Eiralox]

around n round we go

[Vivax]

Magic powers tell me you are the giraffe.

[Crescent]

Page 101/102 impression: Gibus needs to stop posting other people's quotes and use more of his own words. Too many posts with really none of his own words.

[Crescent]

Magic powers tell me you are the giraffe.

Are giraffes sus?