Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[scamper]

thoughts through page 44:

- i'm p sure crescent is just town now based on outing the stuff in regard to corwin and the level of solving she's getting into right now, just a lot of good thoughts

- i don't like JF's defense of corwin in 1058, feels like hes dodging making substantive commentary

- i'm actually not getting why people are starting to townread gamma, it feels like shes been mostly going with the flow aside from defending marci and i'm slightly sus of her. i don't think she and marci are s/s but my tr there has been weakening

[scamper]

goodjob datisi!! wanting to laugh is totally a scum motivation!!

just again want to note, i *really* dislike posts such as this

[Gamma Emerald]

thoughts through page 44:

- i'm p sure crescent is just town now based on outing the stuff in regard to corwin and the level of solving she's getting into right now, just a lot of good thoughts

- i don't like JF's defense of corwin in 1058, feels like hes dodging making substantive commentary

- i'm actually not getting why people are starting to townread gamma, it feels like shes been mostly going with the flow aside from defending marci and i'm slightly sus of her. i don't think she and marci are s/s but my tr there has been weakening

This is honestly fair re: me
Btw I am kinda in a cooldown state after kinda going radioactive for a while so if anyone has a question or comment they’d like to bring to me but feel intimidated by me to do so normally now would probably be a good time to do so
I won’t take well to someone trying to present again a point they’ve already presented to me tho

[Bellaphant]

Just played a newbie with corwin as scum, they were often absent and their reads felt inconsistent. They did react emotionally to a player, but that player was basically trolling and corwind's response probably wasn't alignment indicative.

[Crescent]

NM spent all of 2273 shitposting and trolling the game. Host refused to force him into any content and he wasted a town slot all game. It sure pissed me off, but he was getting off on the incessant trash NM was spewing. What kinda trolling was in that newbie game?

Mm I took a catnap. Meow.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 1.13

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-12 12:00:00).

yeet

Corwinoid[5]:

Scamper, Save the Dragons, Datisi, Gamma Emerald, Freedom

Marcistar[2]:

Ausuka, Alexcellent

Alexcellent[2]:

Roden, JohnnyFarrar

Datisi[1]:

Marcistar

Scamper[1]:

Corwinoid

Not Voting[2]:

Crescent, Bellaphant

mod note

Bellaphant is VLA until Monday
Alexcellent is VLA Tuesday - Thursday

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[scamper]

thoughts through page 44:

- i'm p sure crescent is just town now based on outing the stuff in regard to corwin and the level of solving she's getting into right now, just a lot of good thoughts

- i don't like JF's defense of corwin in 1058, feels like hes dodging making substantive commentary

- i'm actually not getting why people are starting to townread gamma, it feels like shes been mostly going with the flow aside from defending marci and i'm slightly sus of her. i don't think she and marci are s/s but my tr there has been weakening

This is honestly fair re: me
Btw I am kinda in a cooldown state after kinda going radioactive for a while so if anyone has a question or comment they’d like to bring to me but feel intimidated by me to do so normally now would probably be a good time to do so
I won’t take well to someone trying to present again a point they’ve already presented to me tho

who do you suspect besides corwin right now? your reads have felt wishy-washy this game

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Alex is scum
not sure on the last one but my strong TR are you, marci, crescent, fenrir, and datisi
freedom I kinda feel is town but not super great on that one
idr what roden has exactly done tbf
JF is maybe town but also a bit of a question mark
Bella + Ausuka I think could be both town or T+S with the scum basically riding the mindmeld vibe

[Alexcellent]

Hello I'm awake and going to try and do a proper catch up

[Alexcellent]

can we vote corwin

in before

I see.

What I'm trying to say is I don't think the scummy stuff necessarily needs to be looked at through the lens of a scum strategy.

This is a good point.
Not everybody strategises as scum. Some people as scum panic and do ridiculous things like locking into a minigame that is the easiest for scum in GotF early.

noo can we pretend it was planned... my egos shattered....
early game is easiest to find if im scum i think since ill panic easier... but my associatives always suck ass too so

can we vote corwin

Explain.
Is it to do with their push on STD?

no
its bcuz of the buddy buddying!!

It is interesting to me that Marci wants a Corwin wagon but stays on Datisi. The more I think about it the more I think they're probably unlikely to be scum together, don't think scum!Marci does a half-ass bus like this on scum!Corwin?

[Alexcellent]

UNVOTE: Marci

[Alexcellent]

okay i just wanna note ive repeatedly asked marci to clarify her read on datisi and shes again posted while completely ignoring me

ok and?

Stuff like this is pretty gross but maybe too gross to be scum

[Alexcellent]

Like, if you read their posts it seems like they're more ready to defend thselves than they are honestly looking for reads and reactions.

And the timing of the Marci vote is convenient for their own self preservation. And I haven't double checked, but I thought they were fully townreading Marci beforehand

Correct, I was mostly town reading Marci earlier but that was before she went into flail mode. I fairly blatantly sheeped Ausuka's read after they posted Marci's scumgame, kind of made me realise that the way Marci was acting could be scum!Marci. Tbh I'm struggling a bit there. I've unvoted but kind of think she's still not a bad launch. My brain says scum but my gut says town, y'know?

[Alexcellent]

i like crescent less and less

How funny, I'm feeling the same about you~

Stuff like this is what makes Crescent annoying to read. Like this has a bit of that OMGUS energy but that's on brand for her town game as well.

[Alexcellent]

It's ok you can call me a tryhard I deserve it

Just take the complement <3

I've been the #1 poster by volume in all 3 of my games here. I definitely know all about tryharding~

That's not always a positive thing. Over activity can hurt town and be a scum tactic also.

I just woke up and there are 8 or 9 new pages of you and marci fluffing it up substituting the submit button for the enter key. That's the point... I'm still catching up.

yall im sorry ill stop talking if it makes things easier

No, it's fine really. Some of my personal frustration with Crescent boiling over. I'd rather have people more active than not, it's just frustrating when that activity is mostly overnight for me and then I get shit on for not being immediately caught up.

I couuuuuld see this frustration coming from town!Corwin

[Alexcellent]

Is that NAI or town? Is it not a viable scum tactic to make people dislike the game enough to make them apathetic?

I read it the same way, as being worried she was pushing us out, and I really don't want my just waking up and being grumpy (mostly at a particular person) to change the way someone's playing either. I'd feel that way as scum too, because yeah, it's a game, but I can see certain players legitimately trying that.

Corwin if you're caught up now do you think Marci is mafia?

Not really feeling it, no.

I feel like it's NAI? It seems like she was worried she was stopping Corwin and Johnny from enjoying the game which I think is more indicative of the whole 'everyone is just playing this game to have fun at the end of the day' than win condition

Seems antithetical to “Marci is rude as scum”
Sure she could try to not make the game feel oppressive as scum but I think the execution of stating she didn’t want to make the game hard to read would be different
It doesn’t feel like a PR stunt.

I think this actually puts into words more of what I was feeling than I could think of. 978 just felt super off the cuff and not artificial at all, even if the general 'play' is NAI this doesn't feel like a scum way of replying with it.

I could see this coming from scum!Corwin if Marci is town

[Alexcellent]

I like 1016 Scamper's case on Corwin a lot

[Freedom]

NM spent all of 2273 shitposting and trolling the game. Host refused to force him into any content and he wasted a town slot all game. It sure pissed me off, but he was getting off on the incessant trash NM was spewing. What kinda trolling was in that newbie game?

Mm I took a catnap. Meow.

Probably one of those people who try a backfiring gambit or one of those people who hammer randomly.
I guess?

[Alexcellent]

Oh holy shit, you can actually post more than one sentence at a time.

and these feel exactly like the posts hes making this game, where he keeps making excuses for being behind rather than playing the game, and complaining about how spam is making it hard for him to catch up. i think what hes doing here is more or less identical to that game

If the summation of your argument is new player replacing into games plays cautiously day 1 and you're going to selectively pick the completed game for that, my response is just going to be 'fuck off.' I'll wade through the first half of that after I smoke.

I want to mention here that I think Corwin is a pretty emotional player (I don't mean offence to him, I'm sure he's a top bloke) but our previous mini did have him reacting pretty angrily to stuff he didn't like. I remember him getting quite snappy at me when I suggested a policy lim on D2 or something, and he spent a lot of the game in a 1v1 tunnel with another townie and they both kind of had weak points against each other but Corwin was sure he was scum for a long time until being convinced by the rest of town that he was tunneling.
Having said that, this is a REALLY defensive kneejerk reaction

[Alexcellent]

2273 Corwin aggressively attacked anyone to ever bring up out of game information to the game. This Corwin not only ignored Ausuka, he asked me a direct question pertaining to a different community out of "curiosity".

I think I missed this request, where's this?

[Alexcellent]

Oh and his immediate attempt to townclear me for whatever the hell reasons scumpinged me pretty hard. It felt like a pretty blatant attempt to pocket me given how he more or less refused to even be civil with me in 2273. I shot down so many bad arguments from him (On day 3 I basically obliterated every argument he had in one swoop and his response was basically "well you're still scum I don't care if I have no arguments for it"). I stopped bothering to respond because it just wasn't worth it anymore.

I don't think town Corwin immediately buddies up to me like that here.

Yup.

Tbh the most damning thing I think isn't his big blowup at scampers (although that's not great), it's him coming in and town reading you immediately. You have the same tone/vibe here than last mini, and Corwin hammered you over there. I have a hard time believing town!Corwin has a strong town read of you here.

[Bellaphant]

@cres, I have like 100% ability to read nm, even when shit posting. I'm not sure if it's a gift or a curse. But it was reportable levels of trolling - stealing corwind's avatar, lying about being hacked, etc.

[Alexcellent]

I mean Corwin's posts were obviously terrible

I was hoping he would post some more while I was asleep but no

Don't want to vote there because lolhammers but yeah

You think someone in this player list would lolhammer?
I don't think we have any blatant players like that except maybe Marci but think that's a death sentence for her if Corwin is town

[Crescent]

i like crescent less and less

How funny, I'm feeling the same about you~

Stuff like this is what makes Crescent annoying to read. Like this has a bit of that OMGUS energy but that's on brand for her town game as well.

Most conventional meta doesn't work on me because many of the things I will do fly in the face of it.

Most people try to adjust their scum game to their town game. I did the opposite. I found being goody goody as town was severely impacting my ability to function as scum, so to be frank I made my town game scummier. I definitely think it made me a better player as both alignments, too, because all those little things I was would bottle up became things I could say freely.

4 years ago I never make that retort to STD as either alignment.

[Crescent]

2273 Corwin aggressively attacked anyone to ever bring up out of game information to the game. This Corwin not only ignored Ausuka, he asked me a direct question pertaining to a different community out of "curiosity".

I think I missed this request, where's this?

#1015. He asks me an out of game question. Immediate alarm bells.