mechanically I don't think a miller makes a lot of sense in a micro, there just doesn't feel like the space for it.
I don't recall ever seeing a miller be in a micro, but if you have experience with a micro with a miller, please link me.
I guess I also don't think Ausuka claims miller in the manner she does - I have a different mental model in my head about how she would claim miller if she were a miller.
It's not something that I feel confident in - just a starting point for early in the day.
In post 51, Aristeia wrote:I guess I also don't think Ausuka claims miller in the manner she does - I have a different mental model in my head about how she would claim miller if she were a miller.
What about my post do you think needs elaboration? I thought I explained myself fine. Meg is seeing what I'm seeing, I think that makes them more likely to be approaching the game with an uninformed mindset.
In post 51, Aristeia wrote:I guess I also don't think Ausuka claims miller in the manner she does - I have a different mental model in my head about how she would claim miller if she were a miller.
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I think if you were a miller you would've had a different opening.
In post 51, Aristeia wrote:I guess I also don't think Ausuka claims miller in the manner she does - I have a different mental model in my head about how she would claim miller if she were a miller.
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I think if you were a miller you would've had a different opening.
It feels like a gambit.
I'm trying to ask why you don't think I would open with "I'm miller" as miller
I feel like it shouldn't be difficult to believe that a townie might townread someone who shares their perspective and says what they're thinking before they say it. This line of questioning feels like busywork to me, honestly.
In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
Why? She loses nothing from claiming it (unless shes rolecopped ig). As far as claims go, its definitely safer than claiming VT anyway, the suspicion will blow over in a day max
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
In post 34, Ph0enix wrote:I think Ausuka's Miller claim is NAI in and of itself and while it presents the possibility that she's fakeclaiming, I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody, given that we're only 30-ish posts in. If there's no better option by the end of the day, for example, then sure, but I think we should see how the game plays out for now.
In post 39, Ausuka wrote:Phoenix, didn't you say my claim was NAI? That doesn't sound like you get where she's coming from.
I did. I think it is NAI by itself, but in a scenario where at the end of the day there's no good options for an elimination, I'd choose the player who has claimed Miller over someone who hasn't cause betting on someone having fakeclaimed Miller at the beginning of D1 is better than voting at random, IMO. I think Aristeia is saying the same thing (@Aristeia: Feel free to correct me if I'm misinterpreting), it's just the way she phrased it that bugged me cause it made it seem in my eyes that she's fine "yeeting" you right now as it is, which I'm not.
It is completely the same thing as voting at random. A miller claim is disprovable, it is the same thing as claiming a vanilla townie or jester. You might think this locks them into a claim, but they can just retract the claim, say they were joking. Honestly, nothing that happens in the first few days are concrete, but they are still the most important part in understanding someone mayhaps.
Why would you believe a miller claim over someone else? Thats the first time i've heard that, usually miller is a troll claim.
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
mechanically I don't think a miller makes a lot of sense in a micro, there just doesn't feel like the space for it.
I don't recall ever seeing a miller be in a micro, but if you have experience with a micro with a miller, please link me.
I guess I also don't think Ausuka claims miller in the manner she does - I have a different mental model in my head about how she would claim miller if she were a miller.
It's not something that I feel confident in - just a starting point for early in the day.
Reflecting on this post I really don't like the three steps forward one step back this post has. Feels manipulative. VOTE: Aristeia
I think the best way to move forward is to L-1 datisi. Days move faster with the threat of a lolhammer on the horizon, and if it does come the second day also moves fast. So i invite the miller to cast their vote, or anyone who wants to be the best player in this here lobby
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
